Understanding Multiple Delta Function in 1D and Multidimensional Spaces

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the understanding and application of multiple delta functions in one-dimensional and multidimensional spaces, particularly focusing on the mathematical treatment of delta functions when dealing with functions of multiple variables.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the application of the multiple delta function, specifically asking how to express δ(f(x,y)).
  • Another participant suggests treating y as a parameter, allowing the function f(x,y) to be considered as a function of one variable, leading to the expression δ(f(x,y)) = ∑ δ(x - ξi(y)) |[∂f(x,y)/∂x]x = ξi(y)|.
  • A later reply confirms the validity of treating y as a parameter, providing an example involving the delta function on the light cone, δ(x² - c²t²), and explaining how to derive a one-dimensional representation from it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of treating one variable as a parameter, but there is some uncertainty regarding the independence of the variables x and y in the context of the delta function.

Contextual Notes

There is an assumption that the function f(x,y) has simple zeros, and the discussion does not resolve the implications of variable independence on the treatment of the delta function.

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Hi everyone,
I have trouble understanding the multiple delta function. For one dimensional delta function, we have
δ([itex]\varphi[/itex](x))=[itex]\sum_{i=1}^{N}[/itex]δ(x−xi)|[itex]\varphi[/itex]′(xi)|
where xi's (for i = 1 to N) are simple zeros of f(x) and it is known that f(x) has no zeros of multiplicitiy > 1

but what is the case of multiple delta function
δ(f(x,y))=?

PS:This my first time to this forum, I'm not familiar with Latex. Sorry for the caused inconvenience.
 
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Well one thing you could do is to treat y as a parameter and f(x,y) as a function of one variable. Then the zeroes of f(x,y) occur at x = ξi(y), and you have δ(f(x,y)) = ∑ δ(x - ξi(y)) |[∂f(x,y)/∂x]x = ξi(y)|.
 
Bill_K said:
Well one thing you could do is to treat y as a parameter and f(x,y) as a function of one variable. Then the zeroes of f(x,y) occur at x = ξi(y), and you have δ(f(x,y)) = ∑ δ(x - ξi(y)) |[∂f(x,y)/∂x]x = ξi(y)|.


Thank a lot for your help, Bill!

But I wonder whether we can treat y as a parameter and have x = ξi(y), as in f(x,y) the two arguments x and y are independent to each other.
 
Sure, that's perfectly legal. You will often see this approach used when dealing with the delta function on the light cone δ(x2 - c2t2). Instead of calling it a function of two variables f(x, t) = x2 - c2t2, we define a parameter a = ct and work with a function of one variable, δ(x2 - a2). By the one-dimensional rule this is equal to |1/2a| (δ(x - a) + δ(x + a)), which can then be written |1/2ct| (δ(x - ct) + δ(x + ct)).
 
Bill_K said:
Sure, that's perfectly legal. You will often see this approach used when dealing with the delta function on the light cone δ(x2 - c2t2). Instead of calling it a function of two variables f(x, t) = x2 - c2t2, we define a parameter a = ct and work with a function of one variable, δ(x2 - a2). By the one-dimensional rule this is equal to |1/2a| (δ(x - a) + δ(x + a)), which can then be written |1/2ct| (δ(x - ct) + δ(x + ct)).

Yes, you are right!
Thanks again for your help, good luck with you!
 

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