Understanding N-point Correlation Functions in Particle Scattering Processes

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter copernicus1
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Correlation Functions
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation and application of N-point correlation functions in particle scattering processes, focusing on their roles in theoretical frameworks such as Feynman diagrams and scattering cross sections.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a two-point correlation function can be interpreted as the amplitude for a particle to propagate between two points, questioning if similar interpretations apply to three- or higher-point correlation functions.
  • One participant notes that N-point correlation functions are used in calculating scattering cross sections.
  • Another participant elaborates on the mathematical structure of correlation functions, explaining that one can contract fields in various ways to derive Green's functions, which are then used in Feynman diagrams to calculate amplitudes.
  • It is mentioned that the naming of correlation functions corresponds to the number of external fields or particles involved, with specific examples given for two-point and four-point functions, including their interactions and contributions to scattering processes.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the utility of three-point functions, suggesting they may only yield disconnected contributions and questioning their relevance in scattering calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation and significance of three-point correlation functions, with some asserting their utility while others question their relevance, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the role of odd-numbered correlation functions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the contributions of odd-numbered correlation functions and the conditions under which certain interpretations hold, particularly in relation to vacuum energy expectations.

copernicus1
Messages
98
Reaction score
0
For a two-point correlation function, it's my understanding we can interpret this as the amplitude for a particle to propagate from one point to another. Is there a similar interpretation for 3- or higher-point correlation functions? When are these used?

Thanks!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
They are used when calculating the scattering cross sections.
 
copernicus1 said:
For a two-point correlation function, it's my understanding we can interpret this as the amplitude for a particle to propagate from one point to another. Is there a similar interpretation for 3- or higher-point correlation functions? When are these used?
you can always contract one field to another one, not in adjacent to the first one and you still have a green function.You can contract any two and the result for contracting is the green function multiplied by other operator that remained.For example if you have
<0|T{ψ1ψ2ψ3ψ4)|0> then you will have GF(1-2)GF(3-4)+...,where ... is for other two choices.Those operator which are not contracted gives zero.You will not have an odd term like 3 point because that will give zero(contract with who).So you can still apply the interpreatation you want,for particle being created at 1, destroyed at 2 and particle created at 3 ,destroyed at 4.You can create diagrams using these,called feynman diagrams.Some of these diagrams will be disconnected ,you just leave them.you can use these diagram to calculate amplitude.
 
As I understand it the name 2,3,4... correlation function is coming from how many particles you have (or they call them external point in the Feynman diagrams). In the 2-point function you have 2 external fields at let's say space points x1 and x2. You can connect them by a line and that is it - the propagator. With 4-point function you have 4 points, You are connecting them 2 by 2 (this is the Wick contraction) in many ways now. For example you can have two electrons entering, two going out, no interaction (the lines do not cross) and the probability for this process is in the 4-point function. But you can have them interacting with each other (the lines now cross) and this is also contributing to the 4-point function. So in other words if you want to calculate scattering of 2 particles this is a 4-point function. As I imagine it n-point will be n particles scattering. I cannot imagine 3-point function that is not a fully disconnected one (when you connect each point to the other two, kind of a triangle shape) but those are part of the energy expectation of the vacuum and are zero at the end. So it is for all odd numbered correlation functions.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
5K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 58 ·
2
Replies
58
Views
5K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
2K