Understanding Plasma Temperatures: Causes & Effects

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The discussion revolves around the causes of high temperatures in plasma, exploring both astronomical and laboratory contexts. Participants examine various methods of heating gases to create plasma and the underlying physics of temperature in plasma states.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether the discussion pertains to astronomical plasmas or laboratory experiments.
  • In laboratory settings, ionized particles can be accelerated using magnets, and other methods may exist.
  • Astronomical plasmas may reach high temperatures through various mechanisms, including energy from supernova explosions.
  • Methods for heating gases to create plasma include applying high potential differences, as seen in neon lamps or arc discharges.
  • Fusion reactors like tokamaks utilize ohmic heating, radiofrequency heating, and neutral beam heating to increase plasma temperatures.
  • One participant expresses curiosity about the specific factors within plasma that contribute to high temperatures, noting that energy input is a key factor in determining temperature.
  • The relationship between molecular, atomic, ion, and electron kinetics and temperature is highlighted as an important consideration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific causes of high plasma temperatures, and multiple competing views and methods are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Discussion includes various heating methods and their implications for plasma temperature, but lacks detailed exploration of assumptions or definitions related to temperature and energy in plasma.

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not sure if this is in the right section but...

What exactly causes plasma to reach such high temperatures?
 
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Qaiphyx said:
not sure if this is in the right section but...

What exactly causes plasma to reach such high temperatures?

Are you talking about astronomical plasmas or lab experiments?

In the latter case, ionized particles are accelerated by a series of magnets. There may be other methods.

For astronomical cases, there may also be many ways - one is the energy from a supernova explosion.
 
mathman said:
Are you talking about astronomical plasmas or lab experiments?

In the latter case, ionized particles are accelerated by a series of magnets. There may be other methods.

For astronomical cases, there may also be many ways - one is the energy from a supernova explosion.

Plasma we create here on earth. From things like hydrogen.
 
Qaiphyx said:
not sure if this is in the right section but...

What exactly causes plasma to reach such high temperatures?
There are various means of heating a gas to cause ionization in order to make it a plasma. One method is simply to apply a sufficiently high potential difference, as in a neon lamp or fluorescent lightbuld, or an arc discharge.

In fusion reactors like a tokamak, one can use ohmic heating in which a large current is induced in the gas, which behaves like a wind of a transformer. Other methods include radiofrequency heating in which the electrons are heated, and their energy is then transferred by collisions with ions.

Yet another method is neutral beam heating in which gas (fuel) atoms are ionized, the ions are accelerated to several keV or 10's of keV, and then the ions are neutralized (recombined with the electrons of which they were stripped) and injected into the gas/plasma.

Ideally, if sufficient fusion reactions can be induced, then the kinetic energy of the fusion reaction would heat the plasma, which is the goal for sustainable fusion reaction.
 
Astronuc said:
There are various means of heating a gas to cause ionization in order to make it a plasma. One method is simply to apply a sufficiently high potential difference, as in a neon lamp or fluorescent lightbuld, or an arc discharge.

In fusion reactors like a tokamak, one can use ohmic heating in which a large current is induced in the gas, which behaves like a wind of a transformer. Other methods include radiofrequency heating in which the electrons are heated, and their energy is then transferred by collisions with ions.

Yet another method is neutral beam heating in which gas (fuel) atoms are ionized, the ions are accelerated to several keV or 10's of keV, and then the ions are neutralized (recombined with the electrons of which they were stripped) and injected into the gas/plasma.

Ideally, if sufficient fusion reactions can be induced, then the kinetic energy of the fusion reaction would heat the plasma, which is the goal for sustainable fusion reaction.


Didnt know that about the gas. But I am curious as to what is it in the plasma that puts it to such high temperatures?
 
Qaiphyx said:
Didnt know that about the gas. But I am curious as to what is it in the plasma that puts it to such high temperatures?
One puts in energy to heat a plasma. The high temperature is a consequence of the energy content. One needs to understand the relationship of molecular/atomic/ion/electron kinetics and temperature.

See - http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/kinetic/kintem.html
 

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