Understanding Potential Energy Function through Graph Analysis

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The discussion revolves around analyzing a potential energy function U(x) plotted against x, focusing on the relationship between the potential energy and the force derived from it. Participants are tasked with determining the sign of the force at specific points on the graph, identifying the point of greatest force magnitude, and recognizing stable equilibrium points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between potential energy and force, referencing the derivative of U with respect to x. There are attempts to clarify the concept of stable equilibrium and how to evaluate the force based on the slope of the graph at various points.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into how to interpret the graph and the implications of the slopes at different points. There is ongoing exploration of which points correspond to stable equilibrium and the greatest force magnitude, with some participants expressing uncertainty and seeking clarification.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with a specific graph of a potential energy function, which is not visible in the discussion. There is a focus on understanding the implications of the slopes at various points without direct access to the graph itself.

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Homework Statement



You are given the plot of a potential energy function U(x) versus x.

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1. For each point indicated, state whether the x component of the force associated with this function is positive (+), negative(−), or zero (0)), by matching the points with the corresponding sign.
1. Zero
2. Negative
3. Positive

A = ?
B = ?
C = ?
D = ?
E = ?
F = ?



2. At which point does the force have the greatest magnitude?


3. Which point is a stable equilibrium point?



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The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know how to start. Please help.
 
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For conservative fields, which is usually what we take potential energy for, F = -dU/dx
 
I didn't understand what you said.
 
The force is negative the rate of change of potential energy with respect to displacement. So you can evaluate it as negative the derivative of U with respect to x.
 
You mean we have to convert this graph into it's derivative? And then what?
 
Well...you don't really have to convert it to its derivative...you can just imagine the tangents at the different points. Since force is negative the derivative, if the tangent has a negative slope, then the force is positive, and so on. The case of stable equilibrium is essentially when you have a restoring force - meaning that if you move to the left (- displacement), then the force is to the right (+ direction) and vice versa.
 
So

A=2
B=1
C=3
D=1
E=2
F=1

2nd question, force having greatest magnitude is point C ?

3rd question, is it point F ??
 
sonutulsiani said:
So

A=2
B=1
C=3
D=1
E=2
F=1

2nd question, force having greatest magnitude is point C ?

3rd question, is it point F ??

All of those answers are correct except the last one. Why F? For a stable equilibrium, you need to find a point where decreasing x causes a positive force, so U has to have a negative slope on the let. Increasing x must cause a negative force, so U has to have positive slope on the right. There's only one point where this is true.
 
Is it C then? Because it has a positive slope on the right and negative on the left.
 
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C or E
 
  • #11
It is E! Isn't it?
 
  • #12
sonutulsiani said:
Is it C then? Because it has a positive slope on the right and negative on the left.

Actually, the slope is negative on both the left and the right. For E, the slope is positive on both left and right.

Another way to think about this: if you need to add potential energy to move away from a certain x value, that x value is a stable equilibrium point.
 
  • #13
It's D
 
  • #14
is it?
 
  • #15
Yup.
 
  • #16
Ohh! Okk thank you so much! Thanks a lot! :)
 

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