Understanding Power Dissipation in Transmission Lines

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding power dissipation in transmission lines, particularly focusing on the relationship between voltage, current, and resistance in the context of power transmission. Participants explore concepts related to transformers, power loss calculations, and the effects of environmental conditions on transmission efficiency.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about how transformers work, prompting references to external resources for explanations.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the difference between power supplied and power dissipated in transmission lines, noting that high voltages are used to reduce current and thus minimize power loss.
  • A response clarifies that power dissipation can be expressed as P = v^2/R, where 'v' is the voltage across the resistive load, and emphasizes that internal resistances in high voltage lines are small compared to the main load.
  • It is mentioned that the current in the lines is the total current, and minimizing this current is essential to reduce losses.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of conductance (G) in relation to power loss, suggesting that v^2/R should be referred to as v^2G losses, and discusses the impact of environmental conditions on conductance between conductors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concepts of power dissipation and the roles of voltage and current in transmission lines. There is no clear consensus on the definitions and implications of the different types of losses discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the complexities of power dissipation in transmission lines, including the effects of environmental conditions on conductance, which remain unresolved. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on the definitions of resistance and conductance in this context.

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how does a transformer work?
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer" for an explanation of working and principles. In future, for complete explanation of concepts, start with your textbook or look for online resources.
 
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Wow, sometimes Wickepedia gives really good explanations!
 
arunbg said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer" for an explanation of working and principles. In future, for complete explanation of concepts, start with your textbook or look for online resources.

hey, thanks for the link. but i still have a doubt. for transmission of power, high voltages are used so as to reduce current in the wires. then power dissipation thru resistance would be i^2*R.but it can also be written as v^2/R. so what's the actual difference bwtn power supplied and power dissipated?
 
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miss photon said:
hey, thanks for the link. but i still have a doubt. for transmission of power, high voltages are used so as to reduce current in the wires. then power dissipation thru resistance would be i^2*R.but it can also be written as v^2/R. so what's the actual difference bwtn power supplied and power dissipated?
First thing you have to know is that P = v^2/r, where 'v' is voltage dropped across the resistive load. Internal resistances across a high voltage power line tend to be small compared to the main load, and hence voltage dropped across them is far smaller. This becomes even smaller with higher voltages. Therefore 'v' becomes small and hence power dissipated is low. Note that this 'v' is not the entire voltage of the power line, but merely a small fraction of it. This is called voltage division.
In the case of current however, no such division takes place in the power lines and in P=i^2r, 'i' actually stands for the total current in the lines. Thus the current has to be minimized to reduce loss.
 
miss photon said:
hey, thanks for the link. but i still have a doubt. for transmission of power, high voltages are used so as to reduce current in the wires. then power dissipation thru resistance would be i^2*R.but it can also be written as v^2/R. so what's the actual difference bwtn power supplied and power dissipated?

the "R" in i2R losses in transmission lines is the resistance of the actual conductors that the current flows through. a v2/R should be more consisely called v2G losses and G would refer to the conductance between the conductors. i don't know what it's like around a high tension transmission line when it's raining or drizzling or misting or foggy (there might be some measurable inter-cable conductance or leakage, but when it's dry, that conductance, G, is pretty much 0. however, you have i2R losses all of the time, dry or not, because although air makes a pretty good insulator when it's dry, the conductivity of the cables is no better in dry weather than in wet.
 

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