Understanding Pressure Regulators for Gas Cylinders | Expert Help

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The discussion centers on the functionality of pressure regulators connected to gas cylinders, specifically whether they provide a constant outlet pressure or a constant pressure drop. Participants explore the implications of different regulator designs and specifications, as well as the interpretation of pressure ratings.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that most regulators maintain a constant outlet pressure as long as the inlet pressure exceeds the set outlet pressure.
  • One participant explains that the regulation involves a pressure drop across an orifice, but the valve's function is to maintain a constant downstream pressure.
  • Another participant notes that the quality of the regulator and the compatibility of its components with the gas type can affect its performance over time.
  • A participant questions the interpretation of outlet pressure ratings, asking whether a specified pressure is gauge or absolute pressure.
  • Responses clarify that the outlet pressure is typically expressed in gauge pressure, with specific conversions provided for clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that regulators are designed to maintain a constant outlet pressure, but there is some uncertainty regarding the implications of regulator quality and the interpretation of pressure ratings. Multiple views on these aspects remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the performance of regulators may depend on various factors, including the type of gas and the specific application, which could introduce limitations in their functionality. Additionally, the discussion does not resolve the nuances of pressure rating interpretations.

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Hi,

I wanted to know if pressure regulators connected to gas cylinders provide constant outlet pressure, or provide constant pressure drop.

Example of the regulator that might be used is this.

http://secure.emiratesgas.com/eCom/details.asp?ProductID=ART01661_PR

For instance, I have a gas cylinder having a pressure of 30 bar.
I connect this regulator to the cylinder, and set the regulator to 2 bar.

So will the outlet pressure, coming out from the regulator be 28 bar, or will it be 2 bar?
 
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Most regulators provide a constant outlet pressure of whatever you set it to so long as the inlet pressure is higher than your prescribed outlet pressure. The regulator you linked to is of this type.
 
The latter. If your regulator is rated for 30 bar inlet pressure and .5-2 bar outlet pressure then you will be able to set the outlet pressure to between .5 and 2 bar when you hook up your 30 bar gas cylinder.

The regulation from most "regulators" comes from pressure drop across an orifice, but the valves themselves function by maintaining constant downstream pressure, not by maintaining constant pressure drop. The flow area in the valve will change based on the pressure setting so that enough flow will pass through the regulator as is required to drop the pressure from 30 bar to 2 bar.
 
It really depends on the quality of regulator along with the soft parts being suitable for the type of gas you are regulating. (If for a prolonged period.) wether its a constant .5-2 bar set point also depends on what the regulator is feeding into?
 
Hi,
Trying not to bump the thread, but this is the best place to ask.

Consider this regulator

http://www.newgaz.com/Products/Cat/International_catalogue_2012_BD_P.pdf
Search "002810AC".

Over there it shows outlet pressure 1-3 bar (14-44 psig).
So this 3 bar represents 3 bar gage pressure to atmosphere? i.e 4 bar absolute?

Or it represents 3 bar absolute itself?
 
1-3 bar.
 
14-44 psig translates to 1-3 bar gauge (above atmospheric).

That is to say, at 1 bar on your regulator, the outlet is at roughly 29 psi absolute (14.5 psig). At 3 bar gauge you are at about 58 psia (43.5 psig).

I'd say that in most cases, pressures in piping systems and equipment are talked about in gauge, unless otherwised noted.
 

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