Understanding Proper Time & Equations

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The discussion centers on the significance of proper time in physics, particularly in relation to equations of motion. Proper time is established as the only special time, essential for accurately tracking the movement of clocks, while other time references are deemed arbitrary. The use of proper time allows for a clearer distinction between spatial components and time in mathematical transformations, particularly when dealing with partial derivatives. The consensus is that while coordinate time can function alongside spatial components, it lacks the fundamental importance of proper time.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Einstein's theory of relativity
  • Familiarity with the concepts of proper time and coordinate time
  • Basic knowledge of partial derivatives in physics
  • Experience with mathematical transformations in physics
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  • Explore Einstein's theory of relativity in detail
  • Study the mathematical implications of proper time versus coordinate time
  • Learn about the role of partial derivatives in physics equations
  • Investigate the transformation machinery in relativistic physics
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Physicists, students of relativity, and anyone interested in the mathematical foundations of time and motion in physics will benefit from this discussion.

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Is the use of proper time just for ease of simple equations? ie you could define velocity and acceleration with any reference time you want but all other choices are arbitrary other than proper time- proper time is the only time that is special.

It seems to me that if you use proper time then you are able to shift all of the transformation machinery over to spatial components- ie when you see partial derivatives appearing you know they are tied to the spatial components and not to the time part.

To put it another way - If you picked a time other proper time you would see partial derivatives floating around that might have to do with time or/and might have to do with spatial components.
 
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zwoodrow said:
Is the use of proper time just for ease of simple equations? ie you could define velocity and acceleration with any reference time you want but all other choices are arbitrary other than proper time- proper time is the only time that is special.
Yes, Proper Time is the time displayed on and kept track of by real clocks so that makes it not only special but the time that any theory must explain when the clocks are moved around. The coordinates that you use to keep track of how those clocks move around are arbitrary but no one has found a simpler method than Einstein's so that is why it is used.

zwoodrow said:
It seems to me that if you use proper time then you are able to shift all of the transformation machinery over to spatial components- ie when you see partial derivatives appearing you know they are tied to the spatial components and not to the time part.
You can try but I don't think you will succeed.

zwoodrow said:
To put it another way - If you picked a time other proper time you would see partial derivatives floating around that might have to do with time or/and might have to do with spatial components.
Coordinate Time is a time other than Proper Time and it works quite well with spatial components.

What is the problem that you think needs to be solved?
 

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