Understanding Proposition 8.7: Operator Norm and Sequences

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around understanding Proposition 8.7 from Andrew Browder's "Mathematical Analysis: An Introduction," specifically regarding the implications of a limit in the context of operator norms and sequences. Participants explore the reasoning behind the transition from a sequence's properties to the limit's properties, particularly in relation to inequalities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Peter seeks clarification on how the inequality $$\| I - S_p \| \leq \frac{t}{1 - t}$$ for every $$p$$ leads to the conclusion that $$\| I - S \| \leq \frac{t}{1 - t}$$ for the limit $$S$$.
  • A participant explains that since $$S_p$$ is Cauchy in a complete space, it converges to $$S$$, allowing the use of triangle inequality to relate the norms.
  • Another participant introduces a general rule stating that weak inequalities are preserved by limits, noting that while $$x_n \leq a$$ implies $$x \leq a$$, strict inequalities may not hold in the same way.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical principles involved in the discussion, particularly regarding the preservation of weak inequalities by limits. However, there is no consensus on the specific application of these principles to the problem at hand, as the discussion remains exploratory.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about the completeness of the space and the nature of convergence, which are not fully detailed. The implications of weak versus strict inequalities are also noted but not resolved within the context of the specific problem.

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I am reading Andrew Browder's book: "Mathematical Analysis: An Introduction" ... ...

I am currently reading Chapter 8: Differentiable Maps and am specifically focused on Section 8.1 Linear Algebra ...

I need some further help in fully understanding the proof of Proposition 8.7 ...Proposition 8.7 and its proof reads as follows:
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View attachment 9398In the above proof by Browder we read the following:"... ... it follows from Proposition 8.6 that $$S_m \to S$$ for some $$S \in \mathscr{L} ( \mathbb{R}^n)$$. In particular, taking $$m = 0$$ above, we find $$\| I - S_p \| \leq \frac{t}{ 1 - t }$$for every $$p$$, and hence $$\| I - S \| \leq t/(1 - t )$$ ... ...

... ... ... "
My question is as follows:Can someone please explain exactly why/how that $$\| I - S_p \| \leq \frac{t}{ 1 - t }$$for every $$p$$ ... implies that $$\| I - S \| \leq t/(1 - t )$$ ... ... ?In other words if some relation is true for every term of a sequence ... why then is it true for the limit of a sequence ... ...

Help will be much appreciated ...

Peter
 

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Let $\varepsilon>0.$ Since $S_p$ is Cauchy in a complete space, it converges to $S$ in the space. That is, there exists $N>0$ such that for every $n>N,$ we have $\|S_n-S\|<\varepsilon.$ Now then, we have that
\begin{align*}
\|I-S\|&=\|I-S_p+S_p-S\|\\
&\le \|I-S_p\|+\|S_p-S\|\\
&\le \frac{t}{1-t}+\varepsilon.
\end{align*}
Now we are nearly there.

The final step of the argument is something like this. Suppose we have a number $x\ge 0,$ and we let $\delta>0$ be arbitrary. What can we say about $x$ if $x<\delta$ for all $\delta?$ We can actually claim that $x=0.$ For, if $x>0,$ then suppose $\delta=x/2.$ Then $\delta>0,$ but $x=2\delta>\delta,$ contrary to the assumption.

Similarly, for the above argument, because $\varepsilon>0$ is arbitrary, we can conclude that $\|I-S\|\le t/(1-t).$
 
Ackbach said:
Let $\varepsilon>0.$ Since $S_p$ is Cauchy in a complete space, it converges to $S$ in the space. That is, there exists $N>0$ such that for every $n>N,$ we have $\|S_n-S\|<\varepsilon.$ Now then, we have that
\begin{align*}
\|I-S\|&=\|I-S_p+S_p-S\|\\
&\le \|I-S_p\|+\|S_p-S\|\\
&\le \frac{t}{1-t}+\varepsilon.
\end{align*}
Now we are nearly there.

The final step of the argument is something like this. Suppose we have a number $x\ge 0,$ and we let $\delta>0$ be arbitrary. What can we say about $x$ if $x<\delta$ for all $\delta?$ We can actually claim that $x=0.$ For, if $x>0,$ then suppose $\delta=x/2.$ Then $\delta>0,$ but $x=2\delta>\delta,$ contrary to the assumption.

Similarly, for the above argument, because $\varepsilon>0$ is arbitrary, we can conclude that $\|I-S\|\le t/(1-t).$

Thanks Ackbach ...

Your post was most helpful ...

Peter
 
This is a particular case of the general rule that weak inequalities are preserved by limits (but strict inequalities may not be). If $(x_n)$ is a sequence with $$\lim_{n\to\infty}x_n = x$$, and $x_n\leqslant a$ for all $n$, then $x\leqslant a$. (But if $x_n<a$ for all $n$ then it need not be true that $x<a$. All you can assert is that $x\leqslant a$.)
 
Opalg said:
This is a particular case of the general rule that weak inequalities are preserved by limits (but strict inequalities may not be). If $(x_n)$ is a sequence with $$\lim_{n\to\infty}x_n = x$$, and $x_n\leqslant a$ for all $n$, then $x\leqslant a$. (But if $x_n<a$ for all $n$ then it need not be true that $x<a$. All you can assert is that $x\leqslant a$.)
Thanks for a most helpful post, Opalg ... Peter
 

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