Understanding Quark-Gluon Vertex in QCD Feynman Rules

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The discussion revolves around the quark-gluon vertex in Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD) Feynman rules, specifically addressing the indices associated with quark spinors and their implications for writing matrix elements in interactions involving color fields. The scope includes theoretical aspects of particle physics and mathematical formulations related to Feynman diagrams.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether quark spinors bring indices into the formulation of the quark-gluon vertex and seeks clarification on writing the matrix element involving a color field.
  • Another participant clarifies that "i" and "j" represent quark colors, not flavors, and emphasizes the importance of handling spinor indices correctly, suggesting that the quark-quark-gluon vertex includes Dirac spinor indices.
  • A different participant suggests starting with the Lagrangian to derive the vertex rather than reconstructing it from scratch.
  • Another participant notes that the term involving the classical color field Aμ is analogous to terms used in QED scattering amplitudes.
  • A later reply references a Wikipedia article on QCD to highlight that the vertices can be derived directly from the Lagrangian, specifically from the term involving the Dirac operator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best approach to derive the quark-gluon vertex and the role of the classical color field Aμ. There is no consensus on the necessity of including certain terms or the best method for constructing the vertex.

Contextual Notes

Some participants point out that spinor indices are often suppressed in discussions, which may lead to confusion. The discussion also highlights the dependence on definitions and the specific context of QCD versus QED.

Einj
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Hi guys! A serious doubt just passed through my mind. It is probably a silly question. In writing the Feynman rules for QCD, we know that the quark-gluon vertex is given by:

$$-ig\gamma_\mu T^a_{ij}$$

where T is the SU(3) generator and i and j are the colors of the incoming and outgoing quarks. My question is: does the quark spinors also brigs indices? If for example I would like to write down the matrix element for a quark interacting with a certain color field A_\mu(q), do I have to write:

$$\bar{u}^i(k)(-ig)T^a_{ij}\gamma^\mu A_\mu^a(q) u^j(k')$$

??
Thank you very much
 
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Yes, of course. "i" counts the flavor (different species of quarks), "a" counts the color (different types of gluons).
 
I think in Einj's notation, i and j are quark colors (SU(3) color triplet indices), not flavors.

But yes, you need to handle spinor indices properly too. It's a sad fact that spinor indices are almost always suppressed, but ##\gamma_\mu## has some. Writing them explictly, the quark-quark-gluon vertex is

##-ig \gamma_\mu^{\alpha \beta} T^a_{i j}##

where here ##\alpha## and ##\beta## are Dirac spinor indices that will get contracted with the Dirac indices of the ingoing and outgoing quarks.
 
Ok thank you very much. That's exactly what I was looking for!
 
Einj, instead of reconstructing the complete term based on the vertex it's better to start with the Lagrangian which already contains this term and from which the vertex is derived.
 
there is no terms involving Aμ(q) there.that just ruins everything.
 
Aμ is a term is inserted as a classical color field. It the analogous of the term used in the amplitude for the scattering by an external field in QED.
 

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