Understanding Recoil Kinetic Energy in Atomic Emission: Fact or Fiction?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the recoil kinetic energy of an atom following the emission of a photon, exploring the validity and derivation of a specific formula related to this phenomenon. Participants examine the underlying principles, including conservation of energy and momentum, and draw analogies to familiar concepts like gun recoil.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the formula for recoil kinetic energy, seeking clarification on its origin and correctness.
  • Another participant references Newton's First Law to explain the concept of recoil, suggesting that the recoil is a reaction to the emission of the photon.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the formula and its derivation, noting a lack of clarity on how conservation of energy and momentum applies in this context.
  • One participant explains that the energy of the emitted photon is related to the difference in energy levels (E1 - E2) and introduces the relationship between a photon's momentum and energy, suggesting that this is key to understanding the recoil kinetic energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the formula or its derivation. Multiple viewpoints are presented regarding the principles involved, and uncertainty remains about the clarity of the explanation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in deriving the formula, particularly in relation to the conservation laws and the specific conditions under which the formula applies.

MiCasilla
I'm reading in a book that the recoil kinetic energy of an atom after the emission of a photon is:

Kr = (E1 - E2)^2 / 2Mc^2

Where M is the mass of the atom and E1 is the initial level from where the electron jumped back to E2, producing the photon.

Is this true? where does it come from?
 
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Originally posted by MiCasilla
Is this true? where does it come from?
Where does the recoil come from? Newton's First Law. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
 
Thank you Russ,

I am not too familiar with this. What I'm trying to find out is where this formula comes from. It is not so obvious to me. In fact I am not even sure if it is right.

When the photon is emitted from the atom I can understand that it recoils, just like a gun does if you shoot...

I assume that the formula came from conservation of energy and momentum, but I do not see how to get there.

Does it make sense to you?
 
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Hello,

If the electron jumps from E1 to E2, the photon has energy (E1-E2), by conservation of energy. A photon's momentum and energy satisfy the relation E=cp (this is probably your missing ingredient). Therefore, the photon has p = (E1-E2)/c. The atom now has momentum -p by conservation of momentum and its kinetic energy is given by Kr = (1/2)M v^2 = (1/(2M)) p^2. Substituting the expression for p from above leads to the answer you seek.

dhris
 

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