Understanding Relative Angles in Navigation: Solving Confusion with Terminology

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The discussion revolves around understanding relative angles in navigation, specifically in the context of a train's movement and average velocity calculation. The original poster is confused about the interpretation of angles relative to north, particularly regarding the designation of positive and negative angles based on direction.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the meaning of angles relative to north, questioning whether a given angle should be considered positive or negative based on its direction. There is discussion about the components of the velocity vector and how they relate to the angle calculation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the validity of the angle calculated by the original poster and discussing the conditions under which angles are deemed positive or negative. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the angle based on the vector components, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the angle provided.

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There is mention of a quiz that rejects the calculated angle, despite the original poster's confidence in their magnitude and components. The quiz's handling of significant digits and tolerance levels is also noted as a potential factor in the discussion.

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If someone wants an angle that is relative to north with east of north positive and west of north negative, what does that mean? Is that the positive x axis? My guess is the positive y axis, since 90 degrees would have those conditions, but not sure..

Here is the problem that's brought up this confusion:

A train at a constant 75.0 km/h moves east for 39 min, then in a direction 42.0° east of due north for 13.0 min, and then west for 69.0 min. What are the (a) magnitude and (b) angle (relative to north, with east of north positive and west of north negative) of its average velocity during this trip?

I have a, which is 14.6 km/h.

But for b I get an angle of -24.6 (x component = -13.3, y component = 6.1).

I have no idea how to adjust the angle, -24.6, to satisfy b. My only idea is to draw it and adjust from there, but I first need to know where exactly they want the equivalent angle, which I don't understand from their wording.
 
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the question is just saying that the angle would be positive if you gave it east of north, or alternatively, you could give it as negative if it were west of north.
 
Then I'm at a loss. Why is -24.6 wrong? It's in quadrant 2, west of north, and is negative.
 
This is driving me crazy. What am I doing wrong?
 
What leads you to believe that it is wrong? If the x component is negative and the y component positive as you claim, then the vector is pointing west of north, which the problem wants you to treat as negative.
 
Well, my magnitude is correct, so my x and y components must be correct, but for some reason the online quiz is rejecting -24.6 as the answer to b.
 
Are you using the correct number of significant digits?

- Warren
 
The quiz says that significant digits are disabled, with a tolerance of +/-2%.

The full number my calculator gives is -24.63839672.
 

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