Understanding Saddle Points in Partial Differentiation - Explained with Examples

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The discussion revolves around the classification of stationary points in the context of partial differentiation, specifically concerning the function 4x^2 + 4xy - y^3 - 2x + 2. The original poster is attempting to understand the distinction between saddle points and points of inflection.

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  • The original poster questions the reasoning behind classifying a negative value from partial differentiation as a saddle point, suggesting a misunderstanding of the relationship between saddle points and maximum turning points. They also seek clarification on the definitions of saddle points and points of inflection, particularly in the context of functions of two variables.

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Participants are exploring definitions and clarifications regarding saddle points and points of inflection. Some guidance has been provided regarding the terminology used for functions of one variable versus two variables, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's specific question.

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The original poster appears to be working under the constraints of a homework assignment that requires understanding the classification of stationary points without providing complete solutions. There is an indication of confusion regarding the definitions and implications of the terms used in the context of partial differentiation.

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I'm working through a partial differentiation problem, to which I have the answer.

The function being 4x^2+4xy-y^3-2x+2 to which the stationary points must be obtained and classified.

At the end of the working out, when partial differentiation is conducted and a number of -32 is obtained, it states that because this is a negative number this is a "saddle point". Is this another term for a "point of inflection"?

How can they make this claim? I thought since the number obtained is negative it would therefore be a maximum turning point.

The second number obtained with the second partial differentiation is 32, and it states since this is a positive number this is a minimum turning point; which I understand.

Thank you.
 
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ZedCar said:
I'm working through a partial differentiation problem, to which I have the answer.

The function being 4x^2+4xy-y^3-2x+2 to which the stationary points must be obtained and classified.

At the end of the working out, when partial differentiation is conducted and a number of -32 is obtained, it states that because this is a negative number this is a "saddle point". Is this another term for a "point of inflection"?
Just to add to the other reply. For a function of one variable a saddle point is a point of inflection, but an inflection point need not be a saddle point since the slope need not be zero.

For a function of two variables a saddle point is a stationary point that is neither a max nor a min point. The term "inflection point" is not used for functions of two variables that I know of.
 
Thanks very much for the info guys!. Much appreciated, Thank you.
 

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