Understanding Snapshot and History Graphs for Waves

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The discussion revolves around understanding snapshot and history graphs for waves, specifically focusing on a problem involving the drawing of a history graph at a specific point in time and space. Participants are trying to clarify their understanding of how wave motion is represented in these graphs.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the movement of the wave and how it affects the history graph. There are attempts to reason through the timing of wave points reaching a specific location, with questions about the correctness of their graphs compared to the textbook.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the timing of wave points and have indicated that the original poster's understanding may align with the correct interpretation, despite discrepancies with the textbook. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and there is a recognition of potential errors in the textbook.

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Participants mention issues with textbook answers being inconsistent with their own work, raising concerns about their understanding of the concepts. The specific edition of the textbook is noted, which may be relevant to the discussion of correctness.

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Homework Statement


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Draw the history graph D(x=0m, t) at x= 0m for the wave shown in the figure.

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I'm not quite understanding the concept of snapshot and history graphs. I think for this one the problem is that is is moving left. The graph that I drew is the wrong one. Here was my reasoning: In the figure, the graph is moving left, so shouldn't the leftmost point on the wave hit the point first? If at t=2 s this leftmost point is 1m away from x=0, then it takes 1 sec for it to arrive, so at t=3. I don't think I am visualizing this at all correctly. Could someone please explain to me why the graph on the bottom is correct? Thanks!
 
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Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
 
I am confused and this is really bothering me.
 
bcjochim07 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not quite understanding the concept of snapshot and history graphs. I think for this one the problem is that is is moving left. The graph that I drew is the wrong one. Here was my reasoning: In the figure, the graph is moving left, so shouldn't the leftmost point on the wave hit the point first?
Yes.

If at t=2 s this leftmost point is 1m away from x=0, then it takes 1 sec for it to arrive, so at t=3.
Yes, nothing happens (at x=0 m) until t = 3 sec.

I don't think I am visualizing this at all correctly. Could someone please explain to me why the graph on the bottom is correct? Thanks!

It's not correct. At x = 0, D is 0 until t=3 sec. The graph labeled "wrong" looks like the right one to me.
 
Yeah, see I'm having problems because there are a couple problems like this in my textbook where my drawings are completely off from what the back of the book has, so I was worried that I was not understanding this at all.
 
Wow. What's the name of this book, and the authors? Looks like you understand it better than they do!
 
My answer is the same as the original poster's..please, what are we doing wrong?!??!
 
Welcome to Physics Forums :smile:

You and the OP did it right, the book has it wrong.

What is the name of this book and its author?
 
The book's called Physics for Scientists and Engineers: A Strategic Approach (2nd ed.), Vol 3, and the author is Randall D. Knight. I also got the same answer as the OP. So the book is wrong and the OP is right?
 
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Welcome to PF :smile:

Klorey said:
The book's called Physics for Scientists and Engineers: A Strategic Approach (2nd ed.), Vol 3, and the author is Randall D. Knight. I also got the same answer as the OP. So the book is wrong and the OP is right?
You are correct.

And thank you for answering my question :biggrin:
 
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No problem :smile: Thanks for the help (and the fast reply)!
 
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I have the 6th edition of this book and the answer in the answer key is still wrong...
 

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