Location of point mass based on graphs

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of finding the location of a point on a wave at a specific time, and considers the movement of the point mass and the direction of the wave. It is important to distinguish between the point of constant phase on the wave and the location of the point mass. The correct answer at t = 1 s is x = 0, as the point mass is moving downwards while x = 2 m is moving upwards.
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Homework Statement
A simple harmonic transverse wave is travelling in the medium along negative x-direction. The waveform at t=1 s is shown in Figure a. The time dependence of displacement of a point mass in the medium is shown in Figure b. This point mass may be located at...
A) x = 0 m
B) x = 1 m
C) x = 2 m
D) x = 3 m
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Since figure (a) shows the waveform at t = 1 s, I also look at figure (b) when t = 1 s. The value of y is zero so I try to find the location of x from figure (a) for which y = 0. There are two value of x, 0 and 2 m.

Let say x = 0 is point P and x = 2 m is point Q. The period is 4 s so at t = 1 s, the wave has travelled to left for a quarter wave so initially point P is at x = 1 m and point Q is at x = 3 m so I think the answer is either B or D but I don't know how to determine which one is correct.

Thanks
 
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You're mistaking the point of constant phase on the wave with the location of the point mass. The point mass moves vertically; it doesn't move along the direction of propagation of the wave.
 
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songoku said:
... Since figure (a) shows the waveform at t = 1 s, I also look at figure (b) when t = 1 s. The value of y is zero so I try to find the location of x from figure (a) for which y = 0. There are two value of x, 0 and 2 m.
It is also important to consider either the point is moving upwards or downwards at t=1 s.
Imagine a paper ship floating on a lake, staying at same place, while riding (up and down) a wave caused by a stone falling nearby.
 
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vela said:
You're mistaking the point of constant phase on the wave with the location of the point mass. The point mass moves vertically; it doesn't move along the direction of propagation of the wave.
Ah yes
Lnewqban said:
It is also important to consider either the point is moving upwards or downwards at t=1 s.
Imagine a paper ship floating on a lake, staying at same place, while riding (up and down) a wave caused by a stone falling nearby.
I think I get it. At t = 1 s, the mass is moving downwards so the answer should be x = 0 since x = 2 m is moving upwards.

Thank you very much for the help and explanation vela and Lnewqban
 
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FAQ: Location of point mass based on graphs

What is a point mass?

A point mass is an idealized object of mass concentrated at a single point in space. It simplifies the analysis of motion and gravitational effects in physics, as it ignores the dimensions and shape of the object.

How can you determine the location of a point mass on a graph?

The location of a point mass on a graph is typically determined using coordinates. In a two-dimensional graph, the location is given by (x, y) coordinates, and in a three-dimensional graph, it is given by (x, y, z) coordinates.

What types of graphs are commonly used to represent the location of a point mass?

Common types of graphs used to represent the location of a point mass include Cartesian coordinate graphs, where the position is given by (x, y) or (x, y, z) coordinates, and polar coordinate graphs, where the position is given by radial distance and angle (r, θ).

How do you read the coordinates of a point mass from a graph?

To read the coordinates of a point mass from a graph, locate the point on the graph and note its position along the x-axis and y-axis (and z-axis if in three dimensions). The intersection of these positions gives you the coordinates (x, y) or (x, y, z).

What is the significance of the origin in locating a point mass on a graph?

The origin, typically represented as (0, 0) in two dimensions or (0, 0, 0) in three dimensions, serves as the reference point from which all other positions are measured. The coordinates of a point mass are determined relative to this origin.

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