Understanding Special Relativity: Solving for Proper Distance and Lifetime

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The discussion revolves around a problem in special relativity involving an unstable high-energy particle moving at a significant fraction of the speed of light. The problem requires participants to determine the proper distance traveled by the particle, the distance measured by an observer moving with the particle, the proper lifetime, and the dilated lifetime.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of proper distance and question the relationship between distances measured in different reference frames. There is an exploration of the effects of length contraction and the definition of proper distance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted calculations but express uncertainty about their results. There is a recognition that the distance measured in the lab frame is considered the proper distance, while the distance in the particle's frame is subject to length contraction. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions of proper distance and the implications of relativistic effects, with some confusion about the application of the equations provided. There is an acknowledgment of the constraints imposed by the problem statement and the need for clarity on the frames of reference involved.

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Homework Statement



An unstable high-energy particle is created in the laboratory, and it moves at a speed of 0.978c. Relative to a stationary reference frame fixed to the laboratory, the particle travels a distance of 1.38x10-3 m before disintegrating.

(a) What is the proper distance traveled?
(b) What is the distance measured by a hypothetical person traveling with the particle?
(c) What is the proper lifetime?
(d) What is the dilated lifetime?

Homework Equations



L0/(gamma)=L

(gamma)=1/sqrt(1-(v/c)2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Stuck on part A:
V=.978c
L= 1.38x10-3m
L0=?

(gamma)=1/sqrt(1-(v/c)2)= 1/sqrt(1-(.978)2)= 4.79


L0=L x (gamma)= (1.38x10-3m)(4.79)= .00662m

Did something wrong and cannot figure it out. Please help!
 
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jdub99 said:
L0=L x (gamma)= (1.38x10-3m)(4.79)= .00662m

Did something wrong and cannot figure it out. Please help!
According to the particle frame, is the distance traveled shorter or longer than seen in the lab frame?
 
Distance should be greater for L0 because (gamma) is going to always be greater than 1. Right? It should be shorter in the lab frame compared to particle frame.
 
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jdub99 said:
Distance should be greater for L0 because (gamma) is going to always be greater than 1. Right? It should be shorter in the lab frame compared to particle frame.
Realize that the distance is measured at rest in the lab frame, so I suppose that's the distance they want as the "proper distance". From the view of the particle frame, that distance is moving. What happens to moving lengths? (That's really part b, not part a. Oops!)
 
Lengths contract when moving. so the particle should be the shorter distance. So part a is the given part of the question. Ok parts a and b make
 
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