Understanding SU(N) Representations and Subgroups

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The discussion centers on the representation theory of SU(N) and its subgroups, specifically addressing the structure of SU(5) and its subgroups SU(3), SU(2), and U(1). It is established that SU(N) has subgroups SU(N-1) and U(1), with the condition that the sum of the dimensions of these subgroups equals N. The conversation also clarifies that SU(1) is equivalent to the trivial group SO(1), which consists solely of the identity element. Additionally, the importance of linear combinations of generators in defining U(1) as a subgroup is emphasized, raising questions about the nature of structure constants and subgroup definitions.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of group theory, particularly Lie groups and their representations.
  • Familiarity with the special unitary group SU(N) and its properties.
  • Knowledge of subgroup structures and direct product groups in algebra.
  • Basic comprehension of structure constants in the context of Lie algebras.
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  • Study the adjoint representation of SU(N) in detail.
  • Explore the implications of subgroup structures in SU(5) and other SU(N) groups.
  • Investigate the role of structure constants in defining subgroups and their properties.
  • Learn about the relationship between SU(N) and other groups, such as SO(N) and U(1).
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This discussion is beneficial for theoretical physicists, mathematicians specializing in group theory, and students studying representation theory in the context of particle physics and gauge theories.

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The fundamental representation of SU(N) has a basic form that allows you to deduce that there is a SU(N-1) subgroup. For example, in SU(3), the generators T_{1}, T_{2}, T_{3} form an SU(2) subgroup.

I'm reading a book right now that goes into the adjoint representation of SU(N) to show that SU(N) has subgroups SU(N_1), SU(N_2), SU(N_3), ... U(1), where N_1+N_2+N_3+...=N. For example, SU(5) has subgroups SU(3), SU(2), and U(1).

My question is that since SU(N-1) is already subgroup, doesn't N_1=N-1, forcing N_2=1, and the rest of the N's zero?

Also, for U(1) to be a subgroup, you have to find a linear combination of generators (call it the generator T_0) such that the new structure constant has a zero whenever one of its indices is 0? If the structure constant changes, isn't this a new group, and not a subgroup?

And why are the subgroups of SU(5) combined into the direct product group: SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1)?
 
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My question is that since SU(N-1) is already subgroup, doesn't N_1=N-1 , forcing N_2=1 , and the rest of the N's zero?

Seems that there is no SU(1) group.
 
PRB147 said:
Seems that there is no SU(1) group.

Actually SU(1) = SO(1) is the trivial group, i.e. it has a faithful representation consisting of the number 1 under multiplication.

To the OP, maybe it would help if you state the theorem in the book i.e. I cannot tell whether it is a necessary or sufficient condition.
 

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