Understanding Systems of DEs with Non-Zero $b(t)$

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of differential equations (DEs) with a non-zero forcing function represented by \( b(t) = (e^t; -t^2) \). Participants explore methods for addressing this system, particularly in the context of existing tutorials that assume \( b(t) = 0 \).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces a system of DEs and questions how to incorporate a non-zero \( b(t) \) into the solution process.
  • Another participant suggests using the "variation of parameters" method for solving the system.
  • A participant reiterates the system of DEs and derives a second-order linear constant coefficient nonhomogeneous ODE from the first-order equations.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative approach using "undetermined coefficients," suggesting a specific form for the solution involving exponential and polynomial terms.

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Participants present multiple methods for addressing the problem, including "variation of parameters" and "undetermined coefficients," indicating that there is no consensus on a single approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the application of the proposed methods or the implications of using a non-zero \( b(t) \) in the context of the system of DEs.

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Hi!

Let's say we have a system of DEs
$$
\begin{cases}
\frac{dx}{dt} = y + e^t\\
\frac{dy}{dt} = x - t^2\\
\end{cases}
$$

One would write it in matrix form and compute the eigenvectors and stuff like in this tutorial (can't post links due to low post count - it's from "Paul's online math notes")

The only problem is that in that tutorial $b(t)$ is always $0$. In my case $b(t)$ is $(e^t ; -t^2)$
Where does $b(t)$ fit in when solving this type of system?
 
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There's a "variation of parameters" method for systems.
 
madflame991 said:
Hi!

Let's say we have a system of DEs
$$
\begin{cases}
\frac{dx}{dt} = y + e^t\\
\frac{dy}{dt} = x - t^2\\
\end{cases}
$$

One would write it in matrix form and compute the eigenvectors and stuff like in this tutorial (can't post links due to low post count - it's from "Paul's online math notes")

The only problem is that in that tutorial $b(t)$ is always $0$. In my case $b(t)$ is $(e^t ; -t^2)$
Where does $b(t)$ fit in when solving this type of system?

In this case, note that $ \displaystyle \frac{dx}{dt} = y + e^t \implies \frac{d^2x}{dt^2} = \frac{dy}{dt} + e^t $, so that means

\[ \displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{d^2x}{dt^2} &= x - t^2 + e^t \\ \frac{d^2x}{dt^2} - x &= e^t - t^2 \end{align*} \]

which is a second order linear constant coefficient nonhomogeneous ODE.
 
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In this case, note that $ \displaystyle \frac{dx}{dt} = y + e^t \implies \frac{d^2x}{dt^2} = \frac{dy}{dt} + e^t $, so that means

\[ \displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{d^2x}{dt^2} &= x - t^2 + e^t \\ \frac{d^2x}{dt^2} - x &= e^t - t^2 \end{align*} \]

which is a second order linear constant coefficient nonhomogeneous ODE.

I think he wants a systems approach to this problem.
 
Either "variation of parameters" as Danny suggested or try "undetermined coefficients" trying a solution of the form $$\begin{bmatrix}Ae^t+ Bt^2+ Ct+ D \\ Ee^t+ Ft^2+ Gt+ Y\end{bmatrix}$$.
 

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