Understanding the Algebraic Mistake in y = x^x Function for x < 0

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the function y = x^x, particularly for values of x less than 0. Participants explore the implications of defining the function in this domain and the validity of using logarithmic identities when x is negative.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that for x < 0, the function y = x^x is not defined, citing the example of x = -3 leading to an undefined logarithm.
  • Another participant agrees that the identities for natural logarithm are only valid for x > 0.
  • A question is raised regarding whether taking logarithms on both sides of the equation is technically invalid when x is negative.
  • A further participant provides an analogy with the function f(x) = sqrt[(x+1)/(x-1)] versus g(x) = sqrt(x+1)/sqrt(x-1), arguing that taking logarithms can change the domain of the function and that this should be clearly stated.
  • Concerns are expressed about the lack of discussion on the range of validity for mathematical operations in engineering mathematics literature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the logarithmic identities are not applicable for x < 0, but there is no consensus on the implications of taking logarithms or the validity of the function y = x^x in this domain.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations regarding the domain of logarithmic functions and the potential changes in domain when performing certain mathematical operations, but these aspects remain unresolved.

prasannapakkiam
take the function: y = x^x
if x<0; it is not defined. However:
take this example:
x=-3
therefore: y=(-3)^(-3)
=1 / ( (-3)^3 )
=-27

HOWEVER: y == e^(xln(x))
ln(x) has a domain: {x>0, x e R}
Thus in that respect when x=-3, it is undefined.

WHY?
 
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I believe the identities for natural log are only valid for x>0.
 
But then does taking logs on both sides technically invalid?
 
taking the logarithms will immediately change the domain of the function . I can give a similar example:
the domain of f(x)= sqrt[(x+1)/(x-1)] is different than the domain of g(x)=sqrt(x+1)/sqrt(x-1) . While the domain of f(x) is (1,infinty)union(-inf,-1)
, the domain of g(x) is (1,inf) .
This means certain mathematical operations may change the domain of the function like distributing the square root and taking the logarithms of both sides and it should be declared clearly the range of validity of this operation.
Unfortunately this approach is not found in any engineering Mathematics book , since these books concentrate on the applications of a theory not the theory and the accompanying definitions.
 

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