Understanding the Complex Bounds of the erf(x) Function

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter mnb96
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Function
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the error function \mathrm{erf}(x) and its application to integrals with complex bounds, specifically focusing on the integral f(x)=\int_{ib}^{x+ib}e^{-t^2}dt. Participants explore methods to express this integral in terms of the erf function and examine the implications of complex arguments in the context of Gaussian integrals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to re-express the integral f(x)=\int_{ib}^{x+ib}e^{-t^2}dt in terms of the erf function and expresses difficulties with complex bounds.
  • Another participant suggests a substitution, letting s = t - ib, which leads to a complex exponent in the integral.
  • A different approach is proposed involving a closed path integral, leading to the equation \int_{ib}^{x+ib}f(z)dz=\int_0^{x+ib} f(z)dz-\int_0^{ib}f(z)dz, which connects the integral to erf(x+ib) and erf(ib).
  • One participant expresses confusion about interpreting the erf function with a complex argument and requests clarification on how the limit of 2(erf(x+ib)-erf(ib)) relates to the Gaussian integral result of \sqrt{\pi}.
  • Another participant provides a limit evaluation, suggesting that as x approaches infinity, the integral simplifies to \frac{\sqrt{\pi}}{2}-erf(ib), and offers a parameterization for the path integral from the origin to ib.
  • A later reply acknowledges the clarity of the previous explanation and agrees with the proposed solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of understanding and interpretation regarding the application of the erf function to complex integrals. While some solutions are proposed, there is no consensus on the interpretation of the erf function with complex arguments or the specific limits involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of integrating functions with complex bounds and the nuances involved in relating these integrals to the error function. There are unresolved aspects regarding the behavior of the erf function under complex arguments and the specific limits of integration.

mnb96
Messages
711
Reaction score
5
If we consider the error function [tex]\mathrm{erf}(x)=\int_{0}^{x}e^{-t^2}dt[/tex]

How can I re-express the following in terms of the erf function?[tex]f(x)=\int_{ib}^{x+ib}e^{-t^2}dt = \\ ?[/tex]

I have troubles with this kind of integrals. How should I treat an integral with complex bounds?
Thanks!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Let s = t-ib, then the complex function will appear in the exponent, wile the s integral is from 0 to x.
 
mnb96 said:
If we consider the error function [tex]\mathrm{erf}(x)=\int_{0}^{x}e^{-t^2}dt[/tex]

How can I re-express the following in terms of the erf function?[tex]f(x)=\int_{ib}^{x+ib}e^{-t^2}dt = \\ ?[/tex]

How about if you consider a closed path from zero straight up to the point ib, straight across to the point x+ib, and then diagonally down back to the origin. The integral over that path is zero since the integrand is entire. We can then write [itex]\int_0^{ib} f(z)dz+\int_{ib}^{x+ib} f(z)dz+\int_{x+ib}^0 f(z)dz=0[/itex] or [itex]\int_{ib}^{x+ib}f(z)dz=\int_0^{x+ib} f(z)dz-\int_0^{ib}f(z)dz=erf(x+ib)-erf(ib)[/itex] given your definition of erf and [itex]f(z)=e^{-z^2}[/itex].
 
Last edited:
mathman said:
Let s = t-ib, then the complex function will appear in the exponent, wile the s integral is from 0 to x.

...then you get

[tex] \int_{0}^{x}e^{-(s+ib)^2}ds[/tex]

I cannot relate that integral to the erf function.
 
thanks jackmell!
your solution is interesting!
Unfortunately I have some troubles interpreting the erf function with a complex argument: in particular, could you explain how the limit of [itex]2(erf(x+ib)-erf(ib))[/itex] for [itex]x\rightarrow \infty[/itex] gives the result of the gaussian integral, which is [itex]\sqrt{\pi}[/itex] ?
 
Hi. I'm not an expert at this but I believe this is correct:

[itex]\lim_{x\to\infty} \int_{ib}^{x+ib} e^{-t^2}dt=\lim_{x\to\infty}\left\{\int_0^{x+ib} e^{-t^2}dt-\int_{0}^{ib} e^{-t^2}dt\right\}[/itex]

[itex]=\lim_{x\to\infty}\left\{\int_0^x +\int_x^{x+ib}-\int_0^{ib}\right\}[/itex]

and as [itex]x\to\infty[/itex], the center integral goes to zero. Then:

[itex]\lim_{x\to\infty} \int_{ib}^{x+ib} e^{-t^2}dt=\frac{\sqrt{\pi}}{2}-erf(ib)[/itex]

If you like you can parameterize the path for the second integral from the origin, straight up to the point ib by letting t=iy and dt=idy then:

[itex]erf(ib)=\int_0^{ib}e^{-t^2}dt=i\int_0^b e^{y^2}dy[/itex]
 
thanks a lot!
now it is clear, and your solutions looks correct.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K