Understanding the Confusion in Stoke's Theorem Formulas

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The discussion revolves around confusion regarding the application of Stoke's theorem, particularly the definitions of line integrals for vector fields versus scalar fields. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the formulas presented in their text, specifically how the line integral is defined in the context of Stoke's theorem.

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  • The original poster attempts to reconcile the differences between the line integral definitions for vector fields and scalar fields as presented in their textbook. They question why the line integral in Stoke's theorem appears to differ from their understanding of vector field integrals.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions of scalar and vector functions, which seem to have helped the original poster gain a better understanding. However, the original question about the line integral definitions remains a point of exploration.

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The discussion includes references to specific formulas from the textbook and highlights the original poster's confusion about the application of these formulas in the context of Stoke's theorem. There is an indication that the definitions may not have been fully aligned in the original poster's understanding.

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Hello, this isn't a specific problem but a part I am confused about in Stoke's theorem. In my text the section on Line integrals (if C(t) is the parameterization of the curve) as the integral of F(C(t))*C'(t) but for vector fields the formula becomes the integral of F(C(t))*||C'(T)|| now I understand this but when I got to Stoke's theorem it says The line integral of the boundary of a surface is equal to the surface integral of the curl vector. However In every example I have seen in my text the F is a vector field so I figured that the line integral should be defined as the integral of F(C(t))*||C'(T)|| but it is the integral of F(C(t))*C'(t) can anyone clear this up for me please if you don't understand my question please ask I will try to reword it more clearly! Thanks!

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physstudent1 said:
Hello, this isn't a specific problem but a part I am confused about in Stoke's theorem. In my text the section on Line integrals (if C(t) is the parameterization of the curve) as the integral of F(C(t))*C'(t)
Ok so this is for general line integrals of vector functions.

but for vector fields the formula becomes the integral of F(C(t))*||C'(T)||
This is the formula for line integrals of scalar fields, not vector fields.

However In every example I have seen in my text the F is a vector field so I figured that the line integral should be defined as the integral of F(C(t))*||C'(T)|| but it is the integral of F(C(t))*C'(t) can anyone clear this up for me please if you don't understand my question please ask I will try to reword it more clearly! Thanks!
As above.
 
thanks a lot for clearing this up

one more thing, just exactly how could I tell the differnece between a scalar function and a vector function?
 
Eg.
A scalar function of 3 variables gives you a single (scalar) value [tex]f(x,y,z) = x + y + z[/tex] for every point (x,y,z).

A vector function of 3 variables gives you a vector: [tex]\mathbf{F}(x,y,z) = x \mathbf{i} + y\mathbf{j} + z\mathbf{k}[/tex] for every point (x,y,z)
 
oh that makes sense thanks the other definitions I found online I couldn't really understand but this clears it up well.
 

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