Understanding the Quadratic Formula and Solving Complex Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving a complex quadratic equation, specifically z² + 2i*z - (1+i) = 0, using the quadratic formula. Participants are exploring the implications of the solutions derived from this equation, particularly focusing on the nature of complex numbers and their representations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants question the acceptability of the solution involving the square root of a complex number and discuss the representation of complex numbers in different forms. They also explore the reasoning behind using polar coordinates for taking square roots of complex numbers.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of complex solutions and the advantages of different mathematical representations. There is an ongoing exploration of concepts without a definitive consensus on the best approach to express the solutions.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of representing solutions in standard forms and the implications of using polar versus rectangular coordinates in complex number calculations.

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Hey! In an example in my textbook, the complex equation z2 +2i*z-(1+i) = 0

is solved using the quadratic formula, so that it ends up with:

z= -i ± √i = -i ± (1+i)/√2 = ...etc.

Uhm.. I got 2 questions:

1) Why isn't the first solution (-i ± √i) acceptable?
2) How does √i = (1+i)/√2 ? Only thing I know is that the root of two is the length of 1+i, but how does dividing 1+i with its length give √i?

thanks
 
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Nikitin said:
Hey! In an example in my textbook, the complex equation z2 +2i*z-(1+i) = 0

is solved using the quadratic formula, so that it ends up with:

z= -i ± √i = -i ± (1+i)/√2

Uhm.. I got 2 questions:

1) Why isn't the first solution acceptable?
Who says it isn't acceptable? It may not be in its simplest form, for someone who doesn't want to see complex numbers inside square roots, but it is perfectly correct. Neither answer is in the standard form a + bi where a and b are real numbers. Normally it's a good idea to express the answer that way unless asked to do otherwise.
2) How does √i = (1+i)/√2 ?
It is easy to take square roots of complex numbers if we put them into polar coordinates, such as re^{i\theta}. In this case we have i = 1 \cdot e^{i\pi/2}. What is the square root of that number?
 
Ah, I see. √i = e^i*π/4 or e^i*5π/4, => √i = ± (1+i)/√2.

Thank you!

But can you explain me why it is easier to take square roots if you put the complex number in the re^iθ form? It's the same kind of work as if you have the number in r(cosθ + i*sinθ) form, just with a bit less writing. Right?
 
Nikitin said:
Ah, I see. √i = e^i*π/4 or e^i*5π/4, => √i = ± (1+i)/√2.

Thank you!

But can you explain me why it is easier to take square roots if you put the complex number in the re^iθ form? It's the same kind of work as if you have the number in r(cosθ + i*sinθ) form, just with a bit less writing. Right?
Sure, your form is also polar form, so use whichever you prefer. The key is that you can easily see the magnitude r and the angle \theta. I was contrasting these forms with rectangular coordinates, which look like a + ib with a and b real, or with other forms such as \sqrt{i}, where there's no obvious method to compute roots.
 
Ah, thanks. I was unsure what polar form meant, but i see now. Thx again!
 

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