Understanding Traverse Wave Properties: Homework Questions

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a horizontal rope oscillating in the fundamental mode. The scenario includes parameters such as mass, frequency, displacement, and velocity, prompting questions about amplitude, wave speed, and tension in the rope.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between wave properties, such as wavelength and frequency, and question the calculations for wave speed and tension. There is discussion about the correct interpretation of the fundamental mode and its implications for wavelength.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using the wave equation and relationships between frequency, wavelength, and wave speed. There is acknowledgment of mistakes in calculations, and a participant indicates they have resolved their confusion regarding the amplitude calculation.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. The original poster's attempts and the subsequent clarifications suggest a focus on understanding the underlying physics rather than simply finding numerical answers.

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Homework Statement



In a demonstration, a 0.45 kg horizontal rope is fi xed in place at its two ends (x = 0 and x = 5.0 m) and made to oscillate up and down in the fundamental mode, at frequency 4.0 Hz. At t = 0, the point at x = 2.5 m has zero displacement and is moving upward in the positive direction of a y-axis with a transverse velocity of 5.0 m/s.

(a) What is the amplitude of the motion of that point?
(b) What is the wave speed in the rope?
(c) What is the tension in the rope?


Homework Equations



w=2*pi*f
k=2*pi*λ
y(x,y)=Asin(wt-kx)
v=sqrt(T/μ)
v=λ*f

The Attempt at a Solution



I already found to amplitude to be .199 m by taking the derivite of the wave equation and solving for A.

For part B, though the wave speed would simply be wavelength*frequency, but 20m/s is not the correct answer. I tried to mess around with a few other equations but they led me nowhere.

And for part C I know T is simply (v^2)*μ, but I obviously need to first find velocity.

Any help would be grealty appreciated, thanks!
 
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What value did you use for the wavelength. The vibration is the fundamental which means the string is half a wavelength long .
 
Alright so the speed should equal ((wavelength*freq)/2), or (5*4)/2 , which is equal to 10 m/s? That answer doesn't work for me either.
 
First of all : you know the frequency is 4Hz and the wavelength is (2 x 5) =10m... this gives you the speed (v = fλ)
Speed = sqrt (T/μ) ...you should be able to get T ?
The amplitude is given by a SHM equation. Max velocity in SHM = ωA = 2∏fA
The midpoint of the string is doing SHM with max amplitude...
Hope this helps you to finish it.
 
Alrigh I finally got it, I was dividing by 2 instead of multiplying by it. Thanks for your help!
 
Great... well done
 

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