Understanding Why ln(x) and e Cancel Out

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The discussion revolves around understanding the relationship between the natural logarithm function, ln(x), and the exponential function, e^x, particularly in the context of expressions like e^(ln(2x+3)). Participants are exploring why these functions are said to "cancel out" and what that means in terms of their definitions and properties.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the definitions of e^x and ln(x) and how they relate as inverse functions. Questions about the definitions used in class and the concept of inverse functions are raised. Some participants provide explanations involving the properties of logarithms and exponentials.

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The discussion is active, with multiple participants contributing their perspectives on the relationship between the functions. Some have provided insights that seem to help others understand the concept better, while others are still seeking clarity on the definitions and implications of these functions.

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Some participants express a need for more information regarding the definitions of the functions as taught in their class, indicating that different definitions may lead to varying interpretations of the concepts being discussed.

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Hi,

I have a hard time understanding why ln (x) and e cancel out, when, for example, we have something like: eln(2x+3)

I tried an internet search but I did not get any good explanation, just statements of the rule.

Could anyone help me please?

Thanks!
 
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Peter G. said:
Hi,

I have a hard time understanding why ln (x) and e cancel out, when, for example, we have something like: eln(2x+3)

I tried an internet search but I did not get any good explanation, just statements of the rule.

Could anyone help me please?

Thanks!

I don't like to say they "cancel out", but nevermind that. Here's one way to look at it. Say you have an equation like$$
y = e^{\ln f(x)}$$and you are wondering why ##y = f(x)##. Just take the natural log of your original equation:$$
\ln y = \ln(e^{\ln f(x)})=\ln f(x) \ln e = \ln f(x)\cdot 1$$Since ##y## and ##f(x)## have equal logs, they are equal.
 
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How are these functions "e^x" and "ln(x)" defined in your class? There are several way do define "e^x" and several different ways to define "l(x)" but which every definition of one of those is used, typically, the other is defined as its inverse function. Do you know the concept of "inverse functions"? f and g are inverse functions if and only if f(g(x))= x and g(f(x))= x. That is, the functions "cancel" each other.

If you do not understand that, before we can explain futher, we will need to know what definitions you are working with.
 
Peter G. said:
Hi,

I have a hard time understanding why ln (x) and e cancel out, when, for example, we have something like: eln(2x+3)

I tried an internet search but I did not get any good explanation, just statements of the rule.

Could anyone help me please?

Thanks!

e^x and ln(x) are inverse functions to each other.

Another way to say that is that ln(x) is the power you'd have to raise e to in order to get x. But then we go ahead and raise e to that power ... so we get x.

In other words, eln(x) = x.

Any of that correspond to what you were shown in class?
 
Do you know how other logs work? Like log10? You can have a loga where "a" is any number. Now, Log2(8)=3 because log2(8) means 2 to the what equals 8? Well we know it is 23=8.

Now, ln is really loge. What happens if we take loge(ex)? This means e to the what equals ex. Well, x of course. That's why ln(ex) equals x.(expanding on what Steve said)
 
Thanks everyone! Sorry for not providing enough information at first but, studying all your responses I managed to understand.
 
Peter G. said:
Hi,

I have a hard time understanding why ln (x) and e cancel out, when, for example, we have something like: eln(2x+3)

I tried an internet search but I did not get any good explanation, just statements of the rule.

Could anyone help me please?

Thanks!

The definition of the natural log ln of a number is the power that you have to raise e to in order to get that number. Therefore, ln(2x+3) is the power you have to raise e to to get 2x + 3. But in your expression, e is actually being raised to that power.
 

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