How Do We Simplify and Interpret the Expression e^(ln(4)/2)?

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The discussion revolves around the simplification and interpretation of logarithmic and exponential expressions, specifically focusing on the equation ln(x^2) = 4 and its implications. Participants explore the relationship between logarithms and exponents, particularly in the context of the natural logarithm and the base e.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants attempt to manipulate the equation ln(x^2) = 4 to find x, discussing the steps involved in applying logarithmic properties. Questions arise about the interpretation of e^(ln(4)/2) and how to simplify it, with some expressing confusion about the square root operation and the value of e^(ln(4)).

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The discussion includes various interpretations and attempts to clarify the logarithmic properties at play. Some participants acknowledge mistakes in their reasoning and reconsider their approaches, while others provide insights into the relationship between e and logarithmic expressions without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants note the importance of maintaining the squared term in logarithmic expressions and question the assumptions behind the simplifications being made. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in understanding the properties of logarithms and exponents.

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Homework Statement


$$ln(x^2)=4$$

Homework Equations


##a^{log_a(x)}=x##
##log_a(a^x)=x##

The Attempt at a Solution

ln(x^2)=4

<=> ##2ln(x)=ln(4)##

<=> ##ln(x)= [ln(4)]/2##

<=> ##log_e(x)= [ln(4)]/2##

<=> ##e^{ln(4)/2}=x##

<=> ##[e^{ln(4)}]^{1/2}##

<=> ##sqrt(e^{ln(4)})##

here I was a little bit confused about, how can we know what the thing inside the square root will be, in order to take the square root from it?
What do we know about the value of (e^{ln(4)}) so the square root of it can be taken?

I understand the other formula which was
##log_a(a^x)=x##
obviously the ##log_a(a^x)## asks us what exponent is the correct one, when you want to raise a to the exponent of something, such that the result will become a^x. The answer is x for the exponent.
 
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oops I made a terrible mistake there
It helps to read with your brain and eyes. Instead of just eyes and not using the brain.

ln(x^2)=4

<==>
log_e(x^2) =4 {at this point I think we must keep the squared term instead of using dropping the exponent down such as log(x^r) = r*log(x)}
<==>
e^4= x^2
<==>
x= ± (e^2)
 
late347 said:
oops I made a terrible mistake there
It helps to read with your brain and eyes. Instead of just eyes and not using the brain.

ln(x^2)=4

<==>
log_e(x^2) =4 {at this point I think we must keep the squared term instead of using dropping the exponent down such as log(x^r) = r*log(x)}
<==>
e^4= x^2
<==>
x= ± (e^2)

Alternatively, you could write ##|x| = e^2.##
 
What about the log formula being used at another example such as

##e^{log_e(4)÷2}=?##

I have a harder time justifying that... I know that the result is 2 because I used a calculator.

You could arrange that such as
##sqrt(e^{ln(4)})##

Hmmm... now that I think about it more...

It seems that ln4 means... the exponent (lets call it with variable r ) with the requirement that it is the specific exponent which is required to be used to raise (e^1) such that the result of e^r=4

So therefore it seems that the intermediate result in the exponent spot there... e^{ln4} = 4
Because e^r=4.

And square root of 4 is 2
 

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