"Unfortunately, You are not the right fit at this time"

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a job seeker receiving generic rejection responses from employers. Participants explore the potential reasons for these rejections, the relevance of the job seeker's qualifications, and strategies for improving candidacy in various fields, including programming, data science, and teaching.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration over receiving generic rejection letters, questioning whether their lack of specialized experience is a factor.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the types of positions being applied for, suggesting that understanding the job market could help tailor applications.
  • A participant offers to provide specific tips on gaining relevant knowledge for entering particular fields, indicating a willingness to assist further.
  • The job seeker mentions applying to a wide range of positions but only receiving positive feedback for teaching roles, which they prefer to avoid unless necessary.
  • One suggestion is made to ask interviewers about the specific qualities they are looking for in a candidate, which could provide insights for future applications.
  • Another participant notes that many rejection emails may be automated, implying that personal feedback might not always be available.
  • Concerns are raised about companies posting positions primarily to meet hiring requirements rather than genuinely seeking candidates.
  • It is suggested that interview opportunities should be used to gather information that could improve future applications by aligning responses with company expectations.
  • Participants recommend clearly articulating how the job seeker fits the role during interviews, emphasizing the importance of specificity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the reasons for job rejections and the effectiveness of various strategies for improving candidacy. There is no consensus on the best approach to take, and multiple competing perspectives remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the lack of specific feedback from employers, the variability in job market conditions, and the potential for automated rejection processes that do not provide personalized insights.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for job seekers facing similar challenges in the application process, particularly those with backgrounds in physics or related fields seeking to transition into various roles.

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I've been getting this as almost a robotic response from every company I've applied to lately. "Unfortunately, You are not the right fit at this time, and we are considering other candidates...blah blah." I'm starting to think it's because my experience isn't specialized enough? I have an MS in Physics where I did a thesis using python and XML to run some turbulence simulations. It doesn't seem to really fit the job description anywhere I apply. What can I do to be a "better fit"? At what time??
 
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I have a question for you. What kinds of positions are you applying to? Without having a better idea of what kinds of jobs you are looking for, it is difficult to determine how you can be a "better fit" (i.e. be a potential candidate for a given job).
 
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I should also add that in my Conversation (i.e. PM) to you, I gave you some specific tips on gaining relevant knowledge to enter specific fields. I'm willing to follow up with you in more detail again.
 
I've applied to anything I see that somewhat corresponds to my background. Programming, data science, engineering positions, defense companies, aerospace, admin, IT, teaching and tutoring, Spanish interpreter... The only thing that's given a positive response are teaching and tutoring, but I don't want to do that unless its my last resort because it will not give me any valuable work experience. Sent you a PM.
 
Hercuflea said:
I've been getting this as almost a robotic response from every company I've applied to lately. "Unfortunately, You are not the right fit at this time, and we are considering other candidates...blah blah." I'm starting to think it's because my experience isn't specialized enough? I have an MS in Physics where I did a thesis using python and XML to run some turbulence simulations. It doesn't seem to really fit the job description anywhere I apply. What can I do to be a "better fit"? At what time??
Have you tried politely asking the interviewer "If you can, what specifically is the "fit" this position is seeking?" It won't help THIS interview, but might provide you with insight into what "hidden" aspects the company is seeking, and thus (possibly) aid you with future applications?
 
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Have you tried politely asking the interviewer "If you can, what specifically is the "fit" this position is seeking?" It won't help THIS interview, but might provide you with insight into what "hidden" aspects the company is seeking, and thus (possibly) aid you with future applications?

This advice would only be helpful if one has actually had a face-to-face interview, and then had been turned down the position. It would not surprise me if in many instances, the rejection would be sent out as an automated e-mail.
 
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True, when the company is NOT truly looking for candidates but rather merely "meeting Federal/State Hiring Requirements" by posting the position (which, unfortunately happens WAY too often).

My point was: turn each interview opportunity into a concurrent "information gathering" opportunity, something to provide you with better insight into being "better" considered at the NEXT interview, by being able to tailor your responses to align more with what the *company* seeks and less with what *you* think they want.
 
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In case you are interviewing for a position which you believe is at least a "good" fit, if not exactly the "right" fit, explain to the interviewer HOW you fit, and be as specific as possible.
 

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