Uniform Circular Motion of a train

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The problem involves analyzing the motion of a train as it slows down while navigating a sharp horizontal turn. The train's speed decreases from 90.0 km/h to 50.0 km/h over a period of 15.0 seconds, with a curve radius of 150 meters. Participants are tasked with computing the acceleration at the moment the train reaches 50.0 km/h, considering the ongoing deceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the need to identify two components of acceleration: tangential and centripetal. Some suggest using kinematic equations to find tangential acceleration, while others propose using the centripetal acceleration formula. Questions arise regarding the appropriate values and methods to apply in the calculations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to solve the problem, with some participants expressing confusion about the application of kinematic equations and the necessary parameters. A few have reported figuring out parts of the problem, but uncertainty remains regarding the overall direction and calculations, particularly concerning the tangential deceleration and its relationship to the centripetal acceleration.

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Participants note the absence of information regarding the distance traveled along the curve, which complicates the use of certain kinematic equations. There is also mention of the problem being categorized as non-uniform circular motion.

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I was wondering if someone could help me figure out what formulas to use solving this problem. My professor gave me the answer (as a way to check our answers) : 1.48 m/s^2 inward and 29.9 degrees backward

The problem is: A train slows down as it rounds a sharp horizontal turn slowing from 90.0km/h to 50.0km/h in the 15.0s that it takes to round the bend. The radius of the curve is 150m. Compute the acceleration at the moment the train reaches 50.0km/her. Assume it continues to slow down at this rate.

Thank you in advance for helping me!
 
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There are 2 components of acceleration. Find 1 with a kinematic and the other with the equation for centripetal acceleration. Then resolve the vectors to find magnitude and acceleration
 
Ok. So do I use the kinematic equation: r(final) = r(initial) + Vi(t) +.5a(t^2)? When I do I get -2m/s^2.

I know centripetal acceleration is (v^2)/r. But do I use the 13.89m/s (50km/h converted)?
 
I am still very lost! Can someone please further help me!
 
I figured it out! You use the formula Vf= Vi + at to find the acceleration, then use the formula a(centripetal) = (v^2)/r. Then you find the acceleration by the formula: a = [(a^2) + (a(centripetal))^2]^1/2
 
darkmagicianoc said:
I am still very lost! Can someone please further help me!
The kinematic equation applies to the tangential deceleration along the curved bend. You are not given the distance traveled along that bend. But you are given the time and change in speed. Can you find another equation of kinematics that will give you the tangential deceleration without knowing the tangential displacement?
 
Thank you for all of your help!
 
darkmagicianoc said:
I figured it out! You use the formula Vf= Vi + at to find the acceleration, then use the formula a(centripetal) = (v^2)/r. Then you find the acceleration by the formula: a = [(a^2) + (a(centripetal))^2]^1/2
yes! That gives you the magnitude of the acceleration. What about its direction? BTW, this is non-uniform circular motion.
 

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