Uniform circular motion with unknown mass

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The problem involves a satellite in a circular orbit around an unknown planet, with given parameters for its speed and radius. A second satellite's orbital speed is to be determined based on its different radius.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of centripetal acceleration and whether it can be used to find the orbital speed of the second satellite. Questions arise about the forces acting on the satellites and the need for a formula that allows for mass cancellation.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest equating gravitational force to centripetal force as a potential approach. There is acknowledgment that the centripetal forces for the two satellites are not the same, and a method involving proportionality is proposed to relate the two satellites' conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information about the unknown planet and the implications this has for deriving necessary equations.

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Homework Statement


A satellite is in a circular orbit around an unknown planet. The satellite has a speed of 1.7x10^4 m/s and the radius is 5.25x10^6 meters. A second satellite also has a circular orbit around the same planet and has an orbit radius of 8.6x10^6 meters. What is the orbital speed of the second satellite?

The Attempt at a Solution


I was wondering if I have to find the centripetal acceleration of the first satellite. If so I know the acceleration is 55.05 m/s^2. But I'm stuck on what to do with there because I don't even know if that acceleration is relevance and how you work it into mv^2/r
 
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What force is causing the satellite to be in circular orbit? Do you know any equations for this force?
 
The only force would be the gravitational force of the unknown planet. But there's no information about the planet, only that a satellite rotates around it, so I'm assuming there's a formula that I need to derive where a mass needs to cancel?
 
As the gravitational force is the only force, how about equating it to the centripetal force?
 
Oh, so just find the centripetal force of the first one, find out what it is and equate it to the centripetal force of the satellite with the unknown velocity? I guess I made it a lot harder than I thought, thanks a lot.
 
Well, the centripetal force of the first satellite isn't the same as the centripetal force on the second satellite. But, once you've equated the centripetal force and gravitational forces together, can you re-write the expression so one side of the equation has only constants, and the other side has the variables. Now, as one side has only constants, you can equate the variables of the two satellites. I guess I'm saying use proportionality, but in a really round-about way!
 

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