Uniform roating disk - find inertia

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The problem involves a uniform disk with a block on its rim, focusing on calculating the moment of inertia about a specified rotation axis. The subject area includes rotational dynamics and the application of the parallel axis theorem.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the moment of inertia for both the block and the disk, expressing confusion about the correct application of formulas and the parallel axis theorem.
  • Some participants question the definitions and setup of the problem, particularly regarding the mass used in calculations and the meaning of the distance in the parallel axis theorem.
  • Others suggest clarifying the distinction between the moment of inertia of the block and that of the disk, as well as the implications of the parallel axis theorem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing hints and clarifications about the formulas needed. There is a productive exchange regarding the application of the parallel axis theorem, though some confusion remains about specific terms and their meanings.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of rotational inertia calculations, with some uncertainty about the definitions of mass and distance in the context of the parallel axis theorem. The original poster expresses difficulty in starting the problem, indicating a need for foundational understanding.

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A uniform disk of mass Mdisk = 4 kg and radius R = 0.22 m has a small block of mass mblock = 2.1 kg on its rim. It rotates about an axis a distance d = 0.17 m from its center intersecting the disk along the radius on which the block is situated.

a) What is the moment of inertia of the block about the rotation axis?

b) What is the moment of inertia of the disk about the rotation axis?

c) When the system is rotating about the axis with an angular velocity of 4.5 rad/s, what is its energy?

d) If while the system is rotating with angular velocity 4.5 rad/s it has an angular acceleration of 8.1 rad/s2, what is the magnitude of the acceleration of the block?

Im just stuck on everything for this problem. For A. I tried m*r^2 (2.1*.17^2) that was wrong...i just don't know how to start. I tried applying the inertia formula solid cylinder: .5*M*r^2 but it came out wrong. Dont know what I am doing wrong.
 

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Hi mattmannmf ! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
mattmannmf said:
A uniform disk of mass Mdisk = 4 kg and radius R = 0.22 m has a small block of mass mblock = 2.1 kg on its rim. It rotates about an axis a distance d = 0.17 m from its center intersecting the disk along the radius on which the block is situated.

a) What is the moment of inertia of the block about the rotation axis?

b) What is the moment of inertia of the disk about the rotation axis?

For A. I tried m*r^2 (2.1*.17^2) that was wrong...i just don't know how to start. I tried applying the inertia formula solid cylinder: .5*M*r^2 but it came out wrong. Dont know what I am doing wrong.

For a), you're right, except you should be using R - 0.17 :wink:

For b), use the parallel axis theorem I = IC + md2, where IC is the moment of inertia about a parallel axis through the centre of mass, and d is the (perpendicular) distance between the axes.
 


ahh! thanks for a

Now for be, parallel axis theorem.
I= Ic + md^2

Is Ic= .5*m*r^2 (where m=4, r=.22)
2nd part is just adding on the answer from part a?
 
HI mattmannmf! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
mattmannmf said:
Now for be, parallel axis theorem.
I= Ic + md^2

Is Ic= .5*m*r^2 (where m=4, r=.22)
2nd part is just adding on the answer from part a?

Yes, Ic= .5*m*r2.

How can you add on the answer from part a? part a is for the block, part b is for the disc.
 


well for the md^2
m= mass of disk (4)
d= .17

I am a bit confused of what the whole point of md^2 means? Ic is the inertia of the disk, but what does the md^2 come in?
 
mattmannmf said:
I am a bit confused of what the whole point of md^2 means? Ic is the inertia of the disk, but what does the md^2 come in?

ohhh.

I assumed you would look up "parallel axis theorem" in your book or your notes or wikipedia or just google it if you didn't know what it was.

You certainly need this information for your exams, so you'd better look it up now.
 


Ic is the moment of inertia of the object about its center of mass;
M is the object's mass;
D is the perpendicular distance between the two axes.

Ok so M is the objects mass, does that mean the mass of just the disk? or the total mass of the system (disk + block)?
D is the distance between 2 axes which means its .17m
 
mattmannmf said:
Ok so M is the objects mass, does that mean the mass of just the disk? or the total mass of the system (disk + block)?
D is the distance between 2 axes which means its .17m

Hi mattmannmf! :smile:

Yes, d is .17m.

And M is the mass of the same thing that has the centre of mass at C …

so in this case, it must be … ? :smile:
 


its the disk
 

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