Uniqueness of Laplace's equation

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The discussion revolves around proving the uniqueness of solutions to Laplace's equation, specifically in the context of a physics problem involving a 3D rectangular cube with boundary conditions set to zero potential. The original poster attempts to explore the implications of their approach using separation of variables and the uniqueness theorem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of boundary conditions for proving uniqueness, with some questioning the validity of the original poster's reasoning regarding the equality of solutions. There is also exploration of whether the uniqueness theorem can be applied given specific boundary conditions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the importance of boundary conditions and the properties of solutions to Laplace's equation. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the relationship between solutions and boundary conditions.

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The original problem involves a physical scenario with a rectangular cube and the potential inside it, which is set to zero on the boundaries. There is an emphasis on the uniqueness theorem of Laplace's equation and its implications for the solutions under specified conditions.

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Homework Statement


Prove the uniqueness of Laplace's equation
Note that V(x,y,z) = X(x) Y(y) Z(z))

Homework Equations


[tex]\frac{d^2 V}{dx^2} + \frac{d^2 V}{dy^2}+ \frac{d^2 V}{dz^2} = 0[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Suppose V is a solution of Lapalce's equation then let V1 also be a solution of Laplace's equation.

then V - V1 is also a solution of laplace's equation
[tex]\frac{d^2 (V-V_{1})}{dx^2} + \frac{d^2 (V-V_{1})}{dy^2}+ \frac{d^2 (V-V_{1})}{dz^2} = 0[/tex]

Are we alowed to say that
[tex]\frac{d^2 (V-V_{1})}{dx^2} = \frac{d^2 V}{dx^2} - \frac{d^2 V_{1}}{dx^2} = 0[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2 V}{dx^2} = \frac{d^2 V_{1}}{dx^2}[/tex]
because V is solved by separation of variables?
Since their derivatives are equal thus V must be the same as V1.

Is this a satisfactory solution??
 
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No, that's no good, for a bunch of reasons. You need more information, specifically, boundary conditions. Otherwise the statement isn't true. For example, all linear equations are solutions to laplace's equation, but they aren't all equal.
 
StatusX said:
No, that's no good, for a bunch of reasons. You need more information, specifically, boundary conditions. Otherwise the statement isn't true. For example, all linear equations are solutions to laplace's equation, but they aren't all equal.

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what if V and V1 both satisfied the same boundary conditions? Would that be acceptable??
 
It depends what the boundary conditions are. Where did you get this question?
 
The original question is
(a physics problem)
Consider an empty 3D rectangular cube having all sides at a 0 potnetial. What is the potnetial inside the cube and how do you know this is the only possible answer.

I solved the problem quite easily and got 0 for the Cn,m

To prove taht this is the only possible solution i am invoking the uniqueness theorem of laplace's equation
 
You'll need to use the fact that a solution of Laplace's equation has no local maxima or minima. So if it's zero on the boundary of some closed region, then inside the region...
 
StatusX said:
You'll need to use the fact that a solution of Laplace's equation has no local maxima or minima. So if it's zero on the boundary of some closed region, then inside the region...

so i don't need to solve this problem using separation of variables??
 
No, in general, it is not necessary to solve an equation in order to prove that it has unique solutions (with appropriate boundary conditions).

StatusX's point is that if [itex]\Phi(x)[/itex] and [itex]\Psi(x)[/itex] satisfy exactly the same boundary conditions, then [itex]\Phi(x)- \Psi(x)[/itex] is 0 at every point of the boundary. Now, what happens if you substitute [itex]\Phi(x)- \Psi(x)[/itex] into Laplace's equation?
 

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