Unit Cell Problem: Find Volume Unoccupied | Help Solving Entrance Exam Question

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The discussion revolves around calculating the fraction of volume unoccupied in the unit cell of a body-centered cubic lattice. Participants are exploring the relationship between the volume occupied by atoms and the total volume of the unit cell, specifically in the context of an entrance exam question.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the formula for the volume occupied by atoms, questioning the meaning of the variable 'r' and the assumptions made about the atoms being of the same element. There are inquiries about the dimensions of the cube and the implications of the volume unoccupied.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the calculations and assumptions. Some have suggested that the side length of the cube can be derived from the radius of the atoms, while others emphasize the need to ensure that the corner spheres do not overlap. There is a recognition of the need to calculate the ratio of unoccupied volume to the total volume of the unit cell.

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Participants note the lack of a figure in the original problem statement, which may affect their calculations. There is also a mention of using online references for additional context.

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Homework Statement


The fraction of volume unoccupied in the unit cell of the body centered cubics lattice is?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the volume occupied by the atoms as (8/3)πr3. I am not sure if it is right. I just assumed that all the atoms were of same element.
I also don't know about the dimensions of the cube.
Can somebody help me? It is from an old entrance exam question paper.
 
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astrophysics12 said:

Homework Statement


The fraction of volume unoccupied in the unit cell of the body centered cubics lattice is?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the volume occupied by the atoms as (8/3)πr3. I am not sure if it is right. I just assumed that all the atoms were of same element.
I also don't know about the dimensions of the cube.
Can somebody help me? It is from an old entrance exam question paper.
What is r in your result, and how did you get that formula?
The problem asks the fraction of volume unoccupied. What do you think it means?

ehild
 
I got the volume occupied by the atoms as (8/3)πr3

You should show/explain your working but I believe that's correct (if r is the radius of the atom).

I also don't know about the dimensions of the cube.

Assume the atoms are spherical and touching the one in the middle. eg so the diagonal of the cube is 4r.
 
ehild said:
What is r in your result, and how did you get that formula?
The problem asks the fraction of volume unoccupied. What do you think it means?

ehild
r is the radius of the atom.
Volume unoccupied is the free volume. It is the difference between total volume of cubic cell and the volume occupied by the atoms. Am I right?
 
CWatters said:
You should show/explain your working but I believe that's correct (if r is the radius of the atom).
Assume the atoms are spherical and touching the one in the middle. eg so the diagonal of the cube is 4r.
Thanks. The side should be 4/√3
 
CWatters said:
... Assume the atoms are spherical and touching the one in the middle. eg so the diagonal of the cube is 4r.
yes. Although the OP should also check that the corner spheres do not overlap with each other in this case. (Maybe it is intuitively clear to some people, but I need to check these things with pen and paper, to convince myself).
 
astrophysics12 said:
Thanks. The side should be 4/√3
looks good. but there is an 'r' missing from here. Anyway, keep going, you have the unit cell sides and the occupied volume, so you are pretty close to the final answer now.
 
astrophysics12 said:
r is the radius of the atom.
Volume unoccupied is the free volume. It is the difference between total volume of cubic cell and the volume occupied by the atoms. Am I right?
Correct so far.
You need the ratio of the unoccupied volume to the whole volume of the unit cell. You got that the occupied volume is 8pi/3 r3, and the side of the cubic unit cell is 4r/√3.

ehild
 

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