Universal Gravitation problem - Satellite Orbit

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to universal gravitation, specifically focusing on calculating the orbital velocity of a satellite. The problem provides specific values for the mass of the Earth, the mass of the satellite, the radius of the satellite's orbit, and the gravitational constant.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of gravitational force and Newton's second law in the context of uniform circular motion. There are questions about unit conversions and the impact of vector directions on the calculations. Some participants express confusion about arithmetic steps and the organization of their work.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided guidance on checking calculations and ensuring proper unit tracking. There is acknowledgment of differing results from calculations, and some participants reflect on their previous experiences with similar problems. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants offering insights to clarify misunderstandings.

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There are mentions of potential issues with the clarity of the original poster's writing and the need for explicit unit notation in calculations. Participants are encouraged to revisit their work for accuracy.

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Homework Statement


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Given,
Mass of the Earth = 6*1024
Mass of Satellite = 45 kg
Radius of Satellite's orbit = 4.2*107
G = 6.67*10-11
Find the velocity of the satellite.

Homework Equations


Gravitational Force Fg = (G*Me*Ms)/(Rs2)
Newton's second law:
Fg = Ms*a where a = v2/Rs due to uniform circular motion.

The Attempt at a Solution


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I feel like I'm being thrown off either by the units being in km/s or by not accounting for the fact that the acceleration vector points in the -x direction, but I don't see why that would affect the magnitude of the velocity. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what I may be neglecting, because these problems are usually pretty easy for me.
*ps. sorry if my writing is not legible enough to read!
 
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Thewindyfan said:

Homework Statement


http://prntscr.com/9huihp
Given,
Mass of the Earth = 6*1024
Mass of Satellite = 45 kg
Radius of Satellite's orbit = 4.2*107
G = 6.67*10-11
Find the velocity of the satellite.

Homework Equations


Gravitational Force Fg = (G*Me*Ms)/(Rs2)
Newton's second law:
Fg = Ms*a where a = v2/Rs due to uniform circular motion.

The Attempt at a Solution


http://prntscr.com/9huloh
http://prntscr.com/9hulwt

I feel like I'm being thrown off either by the units being in km/s or by not accounting for the fact that the acceleration vector points in the -x direction, but I don't see why that would affect the magnitude of the velocity. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what I may be neglecting, because these problems are usually pretty easy for me.
*ps. sorry if my writing is not legible enough to read!
Well, you have the correct formula for the orbital speed of the satellite. Did you check your arithmetic? That's a good place to start.

I checked your calculations, and I come up with a different result.
 
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SteamKing said:
Well, you have the correct formula for the orbital speed of the satellite. Did you check your arithmetic? That's a good place to start.

I checked your calculations, and I come up with a different result.
WOW.

Last time I did this problem I remembered making sure to take the square root of my answer but I still ended up not getting the correct answer, but now I did. Forgot to do the last step! Thank you.
 
Hi windyfan:

Thewindyfan said:
*ps. sorry if my writing is not legible enough to read!
I confess that I do have trouble with the illegibility.

Re http://prntscr.com/9huloh
The equation that you derive looks OK.

Re http://prntscr.com/9hulwt
There is a need to keep track of units. I can't tell if you are doing that right or not since you don't include the units in your work. You are also not mentioning in section (1) the units for G and Rs. I suggest you do the work again writing all the units for each expression.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Buzz
 
Buzz Bloom said:
Hi windyfan:I confess that I do have trouble with the illegibility.

Re http://prntscr.com/9huloh
The equation that you derive looks OK.

Re http://prntscr.com/9hulwt
There is a need to keep track of units. I can't tell if you are doing that right or not since you don't include the units in your work. You are also not mentioning in section (1) the units for G and Rs. I suggest you do the work again writing all the units for each expression.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Buzz
Thank you, because I realized it was because of the unorganized way I did my work that I forgot to complete the arithmetic!

This thread can be closed. Thank you guys for pointing my errors out!
 

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