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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining an unknown variable, referred to as X, in the context of a geometric problem involving a parabola depicted in an image. Participants explore the relationship between the depth and arc length of the parabola, as well as how these relate to the unknown variable. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploratory problem-solving related to parabolas.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the shape in the image is a parabola with a depth of 3m and an arc length of 6m, proposing that these parameters can help find the unknown X.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about parabolas and requests to see an attempt at solving the problem, indicating a lack of familiarity with the relevant equations.
  • A subsequent post questions the assumption that the shape is a parabola and discusses the equation of the parabola in the form y = cx², based on points identified in the drawing.
  • This participant also outlines a method to find the arc length of the parabola, suggesting that it can be expressed as an integral involving the derivative of the parabola's equation.
  • The discussion includes the formulation of two equations involving the unknowns b and c, indicating a potential pathway to determine these variables.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the assumptions regarding the shape of the curve or the methods to solve for the unknowns. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the assumption that the curve is a parabola and the dependence on the specific points identified in the drawing. The mathematical steps involved in the arc length calculation remain unresolved.

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I haven't studied parabolas but that's a parabola with a depth of 3m and arc length of 6m.So maybe you can then find the apparent length.Then you can find x.
 
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i've been on it for a while now,.i'll like to see your attempt
 
meshac A said:
i've been on it for a while now,.i'll like to see your attempt
I don't know anything about parabolas yet.Maybe you can use some equation relating arc length,depth and apparent lenght
 
meshac A said:
I'm assuming that what you drew is a parabola. Is that a reasonable assumption?

If so, the equation of your parabola is y = cx2, assuming that the vertex is at (0, 0). From the drawing, the points (b, 3) and (-b, 3) are on the parabola.

The arc length shown in the drawing is the length along the curve between (-b, 3) and (b, 3). Due to symmetry, we can work with half this length, or 3 units.

Since y = cx2, then y' = 2cx, which I will use in the formula for arc length. Also, since (b, 3) is a point on the curve, then 3 = c*b2.

This equation equates the arc length integral with the known length:
$$ \int_0^b \sqrt{1 + (2cx)^2}dx = 3$$

This gives you two equations in the unknowns b and c, so it should be possible to determine b and c.
 

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