Unparticle Physics and Higgs Sector

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The discussion revolves around the concept of Unparticle Physics and its interaction with the Standard Model (SM) Higgs sector, specifically focusing on the implications of the Higgs acquiring a vacuum expectation value (vev) and the resulting scale invariance breaking. Participants explore the mathematical underpinnings of this phenomenon and seek clarity on the relationship between the Higgs mechanism and conformal symmetry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how the introduction of a vev leads to a mass scale in the context of Unparticle Physics and seeks a mathematical statement for this phenomenon.
  • Another participant explains that the coupling HHO connects the standard model to the unparticle sector and notes that turning on a vev introduces a mass scale, deforming the conformal diagram.
  • There is a discussion about whether the introduction of a mass scale and the flow away from the fixed point in the renormalization group are the same concept.
  • One participant acknowledges understanding the effects of turning on the vev but struggles with the mathematical representation of the mass dependence in the context of the operator coupling HHO.
  • A participant suggests a paper that may be relevant to the discussion, though its applicability is uncertain.
  • Another participant notes that existing literature often states that the conformal symmetry is broken when the Higgs field acquires a vev, without providing detailed mathematical explanations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between the Higgs mechanism and the breaking of conformal symmetry upon acquiring a vev. However, there is no consensus on the precise mathematical representation of this relationship, and multiple viewpoints regarding the implications and explanations remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding of the mathematical treatment of operators in the context of Unparticle Physics and the Higgs sector, indicating a need for further exploration of relevant textbooks and papers.

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Hi!

That's my first thread and I apologize for my bad English, but there's a question in my mind that makes me crazy...

At the moment I'm working on Unparticle Physics especially on the coupling between the SM Higgs sector and the unparticle sector.

There is a paper by Fox, Rajaraman and Shirman called "Bounds on Unparticles from the Higgs Sector" (arXiv:0705.3092), where they say that once the Higgs acquires a vev, the Higgs Operator introduces a scale into the Conformal Theory and the theory will become non-conformal at a certain scale.

That kind of makes sense to me, but I can't figure out a strikt mathematically statement for that phenomenon.
Maybe someone can help me out with a Idea, how to show this breaking of scale invariance exactly.

I thank you!

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Mmm, what are you looking for exactly?

You have a coupling HHO that relates the standard model to the unparticle sector via the Higgs, that we are interested in studying in the infrared. Once you turn on a vev, you introduce a mass scale into the theory and will deform the conformal diagram by exactly the contributions of this 'relevant' operator (in principle there could be many operators that also break conformal invariance, but here they are studying a simple toy model where O is unique).

So are you asking about the renormalization group aspects (eg why you flow away from the fixed point in this case) or why a scale is introduced when you turn on the vacuum expectation value? Or maybe you want to show something more explicitly, like noninvariance under scale transformations?

Either way the necessary (but probably not sufficient) material can be found in a textbook on conformal field theory, like Di Francesco. But as far as I can see, the answer is more or less manifest.
 
Ok, what I'm looking for is, why I introduce a mass scale when I turn on a vev.

Haelfix said:
So are you asking about the renormalization group aspects (eg why you flow away from the fixed point in this case)

Isn't that the same? I thought, when I introduce a mass scale, the coupling gets energy dependent and it flows away from the fixed point...

Hmmm... I think tomorrow I will look for a textbook...

Thanks a lot!
 
"Ok, what I'm looking for is, why I introduce a mass scale when I turn on a vev."

The Higgs mechanism gets turned on, and you will now have mass term(s) present. This mechanism spontaneously breaks the conformal symmetry and the rest follows.

"Isn't that the same? I thought, when I introduce a mass scale, the coupling gets energy dependent and it flows away from the fixed point..."

Correct!
 
Thank you!

Haelfix said:
The Higgs mechanism gets turned on, and you will now have mass term(s) present.

Ok, I understand what happens, when I turn on the vev, but not exactly why. When I have a SM Lagrangian I know what happens. I introduce a Higgs potential, decompose it and see immediately the mass dependence. But now, I have this operator coupling HHO and I don't know how to show the mass dependence mathematically. My problem is to handle these Operators mathematically... :confused:

Demystifier said:
This paper
http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/0707.0893
may (or may not) be relevant.

Thanks, but I've read all these Unparticle/Higgs papers and they all just say, "when the Higgsfield gets a vev, the conformal symmetry is broken"...
 

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