Unreasonable answer for acceleration of an electron in field

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the electric force and acceleration of an electron in an electric field of 0.75 N/C. The original poster presents their values for charge and mass, along with the equations used for force and acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the force and acceleration but questions the reasonableness of their results, particularly the high acceleration value. They compare it to a previous example that yielded a more typical acceleration.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the calculations, emphasizing the importance of distinguishing between acceleration and speed. There is acknowledgment of the validity of the computations based on the provided inputs, and a discussion about the implications of relativistic effects is hinted at.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to consider time scales for the applicability of classical mechanics in this context, and there is a mention of classroom practices regarding the evaluation of output reasonableness.

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Homework Statement



Hello PF!

Got a two-part question involving calculating the electric force on a electron when placed in an electric field of 0.75N/C to the right, and the acceleration of said electron. Our values are E=0.75N/C, q=-1.6e^-19, m=9.1e^-31 (charge and mass of electron)

Homework Equations



For the force, F=Eq, for the acceleration, ma=Eq --> a=Eq/m

The Attempt at a Solution



Plugging numbers in gives a seemingly unreasonably small force (FE=1.2e^-19N) and unreasonably large acceleration (a=1.3e^11m/s^2). Is the value of the electrical field strength given too high? It seems so, as the acceleration is ~400x the speed of light. In another example we were given, E=1.1e^-8N/C, which gave a much more reasonable acceleration. I saw somewhere else on PF that the unreasonably high acceleration was plausible when applied through relativity and that the working was right (example was with a proton), but I'm convinced I've done this wrong. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Apologies for any formatting errors; I have read over guidelines and will be stricter on these in future
 
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Your computation is fine given the input. Why do you think it is an unreasonable result?

Note that you can only use this acceleration for non-relativistic speeds so it will quickly become non-applicable (faster than millisecond scale).

yungquark said:
It seems so, as the acceleration is ~400x the speed of light.
Stop right there! You absolutely cannot, I repeat cannot, compare an acceleration and a speed. They are different physical quantities with different physical dimensions (i.e., they are measured using different units).

In order to make an estimate of whether or not the classical approximation holds you need to involve a time scale, or estimate the time scales for which it holds (as I did above).
 
Hello Orodruin,

Thanks for the quick response!

Orodruin said:
Your computation is fine given the input. Why do you think it is an unreasonable result?

I questioned it originally just due to the sheer size of the magnitude; we had an in-class example that worked out around 2000m/s^2, for instance. Our lecturer is very insistent on examining outputs to check for reasonable results. Thank you for dispelling my doubts!

Orodruin said:
Stop right there! You absolutely cannot, I repeat cannot, compare an acceleration and a speed. They are different physical quantities with different physical dimensions (i.e., they are measured using different units).

Also appreciate this, thank you. I find I'm still making basic errors like this and trying to iron them out.

Out of interest, how is it that such a small force can result in such a large acceleration?
 
yungquark said:
Out of interest, how is it that such a small force can result in such a large acceleration?
The electron is very very light.
 

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