Unveiling the Mystery of Blood & Insect Colors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the factors determining the color of blood in vertebrates and the differing colors in insect blood. Participants explore biological molecules involved, such as hemoglobin and hemolymph, and the influence of environmental factors on color perception.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that hemoglobin is responsible for the red color of vertebrate blood, while insects have a different molecule called hemolymph.
  • One participant questions whether it is the hemoglobin molecule itself or the iron associated with it that causes the red color.
  • Another participant suggests that the color of blood may depend on the environment of the iron ions, indicating that different coordination can lead to different colors.
  • There is a discussion about the structural composition of hemoglobin, including its alpha and beta chains and the role of the heme group in oxygen binding.
  • One participant asserts that the color of iron in blood is influenced by its coordination with other molecules, which may affect its perceived color.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the color of blood is due solely to iron or the molecular structure itself. There is no consensus on the exact factors contributing to the color of blood in vertebrates and insects.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the role of iron and molecular structure in determining color, as well as the influence of environmental factors, which remain unresolved.

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What determines the Colour of BLOOD And why the colour of insects different?

I don't know Biology But i want the answer for above just to add to my knowledge
 
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Haemaglobin is the cause of red blood in vertebrates, as are its derivatives haematin and haematoporphyrin. Insects have a different molecule: hemolymph.

An interesting little fact about insects:
In fact, insects don't even have blood vessels. Instead there is a hollow space inside their external skeleton in which their blood oozes around. This cavity extends to the antennas, legs, and wing veins, and makes a big mess when squashed. The bug's heart, a long tube that stretches the length of its body, pushes the blood from the rear end of the insect on forward. The bug may also have little hearts at the ends of its extremities to help move the blood along. And pumping blood is a slow process: it takes about eight minutes for an insect's blood to circulate completely.
http://amos.indiana.edu/library/scripts/greenblood.html
 
Wow monique, thanks for that, it really is true that you learn something knew everyday. Never normally that interesting though.
 
Is it the Haemoglobin Molecule that is red, or is it the Iron associated with it that makes it red...?

Same question with the Insect blood... Is it the molecule itself, or another contributing factor?
 
Originally posted by Another God
Is it the Haemoglobin Molecule that is red, or is it the Iron associated with it that makes it red...?

Same question with the Insect blood... Is it the molecule itself, or another contributing factor?

The protein is composed of two alpha chains (yellow) and two beta chains (red). Each chain binds a haem group (cyan) which is responsible for binding a molecule of oxygen. The iron atom which binds oxygen is shown as an orange sphere. A fully-loaded haemoglobin molecule binds four oxygen molecules.
from
http://www.bio.ph.ic.ac.uk/molbio/mols/hb/hb.fr.html

I believe it is not due to Iron alone
 
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The color of an ion depends on its environment. In aqueous solution ferric irons (Fe3+) are coordinated with six water molecules and have a yellow color rather than the reddish color in case when coordinated with six oxide ions, while the anhydrous chloride is greenish. Fe2+ are green in aqueous solution but that doesn't say much, the presence of nitrogen and oxygen (only oxyhemoglobin is bright red) are going to affect the color significantly. The iron is definitely what is responsible, though, and most brightly colored compounds are made so by coordinated transition metals. And probably due to environment of iron Coordination Complex
 

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