Upstate NY Man Finds Flammable Water from Gas Drilling

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The discussion revolves around a reported incident in upstate New York where a man claims that gas drilling has caused flammable gas to leak into his water supply, leading to flames when a lighter is held near his faucet. Participants explore the chemistry and physics behind this phenomenon, questioning the feasibility of such an occurrence given the dilution of gas in water.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the ability of gas to ignite from a faucet, noting that a bunsen burner operates with pure gas, while water would dilute any gas present.
  • Another participant points out that methane is not very soluble in water, suggesting that gas bubbles could escape, but the flame produced would not be as intense as that from a bunsen burner.
  • There is a mention of the possibility of other odorless gases being present, raising further questions about the composition of the gas leaking into the water supply.
  • A non-technical response simply states "Satan," which does not contribute to the scientific discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of the phenomenon described, with some questioning the science behind it and others suggesting alternative explanations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the gas and its ability to ignite in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached consensus on the chemical behavior of gases in water or the implications of the reported incident. There are assumptions about the types of gases involved and their solubility that have not been fully explored.

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I just read a news article about a man in upstate NY who claims that gas drilling near his home caused gas to leak into his water supply and out of his faucet. He demonstrated this by holding a lighter near his faucet, which causes sparks to flame up.

Now, I took chemistry, and know how a bunsen burner works, but shouldn't the gas coming through his faucet be too dilute to cause flames? A bunsen burner has nothing but methane and a odor causing gas going through it. But a faucet, from which mostly water comes out, shouldn't cause a similar effect, since the gas is diluted in the water.

I an obviously wrong, since the man demonstrated this effect in a youtube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TEtgvwllNpg&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TEtgvwllNpg&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>
but I don't understand why. Please explain to me how this can happen.

The article: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/01/02/2010-01-02_upstate_new_york_man_finds_man_blames_gas_drilling_for_flammable_water_.html"
 
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Methane isn't very soluble in water, so he would have bubbles of gas coming out.
Since it isn't mixed with air like in a bunsen burner you don't get the intense hot blue flame.
 
There may also be odorless gas coming up from the drain. Who knows what he has down there.
 
Satan
 

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