US Airways Flt 1549 Crashed in Hudson River

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the emergency landing of US Airways Flight 1549 in the Hudson River after a bird strike disabled both engines. Participants explore various aspects of the incident, including the mechanics of bird strikes, pilot skill, passenger safety, and the types of birds involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the incident likely involved multiple birds, as both engines were disabled, raising questions about the independence of engine design.
  • Others express amazement at the lack of serious injuries, attributing this to the pilot's skill and the aircraft's robustness.
  • There are comments about the effectiveness of life vests and the timing of their use during the emergency landing.
  • Participants discuss the types of birds that could have caused the incident, with mentions of Canada geese and seagulls being potential culprits.
  • Some express skepticism about the necessity of life rafts when the water was shallow, while others highlight the dangers of the cold water temperatures.
  • References to previous incidents and comparisons to other emergency landings are made, noting differences in outcomes.
  • There are humorous remarks about the idea of engineers testing engines with frozen chickens and the media's portrayal of the event.
  • Technical discussions arise regarding engine design and safety features related to bird strikes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement on the pilot's skill and the miraculous survival of all on board, while disagreements arise regarding the specifics of the bird strike and the implications for aircraft design and safety protocols.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions include assumptions about bird behavior and environmental conditions, as well as references to the design limitations of aircraft engines in relation to bird strikes.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in aviation safety, emergency response protocols, and the mechanics of bird strikes may find this discussion relevant.

  • #91
The air traffic controller should be commended. Within seconds he had two possible alternative runaways cleared.
 
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  • #92
Unfortunate news story order.
Item 2 - the US air pilot being celebrated in New York after his plane hit a flock of birds.

Following item 1 - an oil company is to face $1M fines an upto 6months in prison when a flock of birds died after landing on a tailings pond.
 
  • #93
Astronuc said:
There needs to be a way that emergency craft can be dispatched immediately one a plane is going down.

This is usually done by the Civil Air Patrol or state police/rescue helicopters and other aircraft in the area.
 
  • #94
In the news here today - they confirmed these were Canadian geese from Labrador.
 
  • #95
Borek said:
In the news here today - they confirmed these were Canadian geese from Labrador.

I suppose that means the TSA will stop you taking geese as carry-on ?
 
  • #96
mgb_phys said:
I suppose that means the TSA will stop you taking geese as carry-on ?

Only geese from Labrador.
 
  • #97
mgb_phys said:
I suppose that means the TSA will stop you taking geese as carry-on ?

Ivan Seeking said:
Only geese from Labrador.

My bet is they won't let you take all geese and ducks, just in case.
 
  • #98
Borek said:
My bet is they won't let you take all geese and ducks, just in case.
And if you are wearing a T-shirt with a picture of duck on it (even Donald), they will require you to remove it or cover it up with another shirt before you are allowed to board.
 
  • #99
Borek said:
In the news here today - they confirmed these were Canadian geese from Labrador.

It's a sad day when Labrador becomes a sponsor of terrorism. Now we have to rename the Labrador Retreiver and I have to stop drinking Laughing Lab.

The number of attacks on US airliners has more than doubled since 2000. Worst is a United Airlines 737 that suffered 29 birdstrikes and one strike by a small deer. That single plane has been attacked in San Francisco; Salt Lake City; San Jose, Calif.; Houston; Denver; Toronto; New Orleans; Chicago and Spokane, Wash.

This deer was apparently rendered harmless to airliners before it had a chance to attack - or else it's a post-attack photo - I'm not sure:
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  • #101
I believe the deer was hit by a train. Lines like that are usually found along railroad rights of way.

I've hiked along a couple of major rail lines in our area, and I've come across the remains of deer. The bodies were severed and parts were scattered due the force of the impact. There is no give in two or three 200T locomotives pulling 10000T of train at 40-60 mph.

If that line is out in Illinois or Kansas, there's a good chance the train is running at 60+ mph.
 

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