Use Variation of Parameters to find a particular solution

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Variation of Parameters method to find a particular solution to the differential equation $y'' - y = e^t$. Participants explore the correctness of a proposed solution and the implications of including terms from the homogeneous solution in the particular solution.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a particular solution $y_p = \frac{1}{2}te^t - \frac{1}{4} e^t$ and seeks verification of its correctness.
  • Another participant notes that one term of the proposed particular solution is a solution to the corresponding homogeneous equation and suggests a different form for $y_p$ using the Variation of Parameters method.
  • There is a discussion about the validity of discarding terms that are solutions to the homogeneous equation, with one participant questioning why a term would be discarded if it is part of the proposed particular solution.
  • Another participant clarifies that terms in the particular solution must be linearly independent of the homogeneous solution, explaining that redundant terms can be discarded as they do not contribute additional information.
  • A later reply expresses understanding of the reasoning behind discarding terms that do not add new information to the solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the inclusion of certain terms in the particular solution, with some arguing for their necessity while others advocate for their exclusion based on linear independence from the homogeneous solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity of including certain terms.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the linear independence of terms in the solution, and the discussion does not resolve the implications of including or discarding specific terms in the context of the Variation of Parameters method.

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Can someone verify that my answer is correct ? Thanks in advance.

Use Variation of Parameters to find a particular solution to $y'' - y = e^t$

Solution:
$y_p = \frac{1}{2}te^t - \frac{1}{4} e^t$
 
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One of the terms of your particular solution is a solution to the corresponding homogeneous solution.

(a) A fundamental solution set $$\{y_1(t),y_2(t)\}$$ for the corresponding homogeneous equation are:

$$y_1(t)=e^{t}$$

$$y_2(t)=e^{-t}$$

and so we take:

$$y_p(t)=v_1(t)y_1(t)+v_2(t)y_2(t)=v_1(t)e^{t}+v_2(t)e^{-t}$$

(b) Solve the system:

$$e^{t}v_1'+e^{-t}v_2'=0\tag{1}$$

$$e^{t}v_1'-e^{-t}v_2'=e^{t}\tag{2}$$

From (1), we find:

$$v_2'=-e^{2t}v_1'$$

And, then substituting into (2), we get:

$$v_1'=\frac{1}{2}\implies v_1=\frac{1}{2}t$$

$$v_2'=-\frac{1}{2}e^{2t}\implies v_2=-\frac{1}{4}e^{2t}$$

Thus:

$$y_p(t)=\frac{1}{2}te^{t}-\frac{1}{4}e^t$$

We may discard the term that simply adds a solution to the homogeneous equation, and state:

$$y_p(t)=\frac{1}{2}te^{t}$$

Because no work was shown, I didn't know until I actually worked the problem that this was the case. :D
 
MarkFL said:
We may discard the term that simply adds a solution to the homogeneous equation, and state:

$$y_p(t)=\frac{1}{2}te^{t}$$

Because no work was shown, I didn't know until I actually worked the problem that this was the case. :D

Mark, if my particular solution $y_p = ue^t + ve^{-t}$ then why are you "discarding" the solution for $v$ ? I mean isn't that part of my particular solution? Why would you throw $v$ away? If that was the case then why wouldn't I just set my $y_p$ (particular solution) to $y_p = ue^t$ in the first place?

Thanks for all your help.
 
All terms in the particular solution must be linearly independent of all terms in the homogeneous solution. Those that are not may be discarded because they add no useful information.

Adding:

$$-\frac{1}{4}e^t$$

to the general solution when we already have:

$$c_1e^t$$

as one of the terms results in us still just having an arbitrary constant times $e^t$ in the general solution, so we may just discard it.
 
Oh oh oh, I see. Awesome. That makes sense. It's essentially useless bc we already have it. I get it now. Thanks
 

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