Used the software PoissonSuperfish

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The discussion revolves around the software PoissonSuperfish, its usability, and its application in beam and accelerator physics. Participants share their experiences, challenges, and resources related to using PoissonSuperfish and similar software like IGUN and PARMELA.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the usability of PoissonSuperfish and express that it may not be user-friendly.
  • One participant mentions that Superfish is often used for magnet design and produces input field values for PARMELA.
  • Another participant notes that while Superfish is free, it is distributed only to professionals, requiring a license for groups that need it.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of Superfish regarding boundary conditions and the necessity of using multiple software tools for different problems.
  • Some participants discuss the origins of Superfish, clarifying that it was developed at Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) and is available for download, while IGUN is developed at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (LBNL) and is not free.
  • There is a correction regarding the mention of "Lawrence," with one participant clarifying that they referred to LANL and not Lawrence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the software, and while some share resources and insights, there is no consensus on the ease of use or the best practices for learning the software.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for licenses to access certain software and the limitations of numerical software like Superfish, particularly regarding boundary conditions. There is also a discussion about the user-friendliness of the software, which remains subjective.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in beam and accelerator physics, particularly those looking for insights on software tools used in magnet design and field calculations.

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Has anyone here used the software PoissonSuperfish>>??

Well or IGUN/EGUN?
 
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I haven't used either sets, but I did find this of interest. Maybe you could contact someone at UCLA's Particle Beam Physics Laboratory (PBPL).

Code Overview
http://pbpl.physics.ucla.edu/Computing/Code_Overview/

Poisson/Superfish
The PBPL link to Superfish at LANL is bad. It seems LANL put it behind their firewall!
http://math.lanl.gov/Research/Highlights/tvpoisson.shtml - some contacts listed

http://t8web.lanl.gov/people/salman/capgca/needmod.html

http://t8web.lanl.gov/people/salman/capgca/papers.html

http://t8web.lanl.gov/people/salman/capgca/tech.html
 
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Astronuc said:
I haven't used either sets, but I did find this of interest. Maybe you could contact someone at UCLA's Particle Beam Physics Laboratory (PBPL).

Code Overview
http://pbpl.physics.ucla.edu/Computing/Code_Overview/

Poisson/Superfish
The PBPL link to Superfish at LANL is bad. It seems LANL put it behind their firewall!
http://math.lanl.gov/Research/Highlights/tvpoisson.shtml - some contacts listed

http://t8web.lanl.gov/people/salman/capgca/needmod.html

http://t8web.lanl.gov/people/salman/capgca/papers.html

http://t8web.lanl.gov/people/salman/capgca/tech.html

Superfish, and PARMELA are codes often used in beam/accelerator physics. Superfish produces input field values that can be used in PARMELA. I believe both were developed at LANL.

While they are free, they are distributed only to professionals in such fields. So if you are working with a group that needs this, your group will have to apply for a license.

Caveat: Like any other numerical softwares, Superfish has its limitation especially in terms of what boundary conditions it can accept. Most group that use such a software will tend to have more than one. We use both Superfish and Microwave Studio, and switch between the two whenever the problem calls for something the other cannot do.

Zz.
 
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We use Superfish in our lab (for magnet design), but I'm not the one using it. What is your question, heman ?
 
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tribdog said:
Sometimes when we touch, the honesty's too much.
and I have to close my eyes and cry.
No, that's not true. You have to hide, not cry. I insist.
 
Actually i have downloaded the software and i think it's not a user-friendly software...Actually i just needed an insight how do you proceed to learn using such an software...i have seen it ,,it contains many-many files...

and yeah Gokul,,we need it for magnetic design like arranging 12 magnets around a cylinder and try to focus the ions coming out of plasma..
 
ZapperZ said:
Superfish, and PARMELA are codes often used in beam/accelerator physics. Superfish produces input field values that can be used in PARMELA. I believe both were developed at LANL.

While they are free, they are distributed only to professionals in such fields. So if you are working with a group that needs this, your group will have to apply for a license.

Caveat: Like any other numerical softwares, Superfish has its limitation especially in terms of what boundary conditions it can accept. Most group that use such a software will tend to have more than one. We use both Superfish and Microwave Studio, and switch between the two whenever the problem calls for something the other cannot do.

Zz.


If Superfish would have been developed at Lawrence then it wouldn't have been available free of cost..it is developed at LosAlamos,,and anyone can download that software...and yeah Igun is developed at LBNL and they are making money out of it...and that code is also not user friendly code..i actually have seen that code working...Quite Amazing..
 
heman said:
If Superfish would have been developed at Lawrence then it wouldn't have been available free of cost..it is developed at LosAlamos,,and anyone can download that software...and yeah Igun is developed at LBNL and they are making money out of it...and that code is also not user friendly code..i actually have seen that code working...Quite Amazing..

What you wrote has nothing to do with what you quoted out of my post. "LANL" is Los Alamos National Laboratory. I made no mention of "Lawrence".

So your point completely escapes me.

Zz.
 
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ohhh yeah...my mistake!:biggrin:
Actually i am not habitual of using short forms!
 

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