Uses of Particles: Discovering Real-World Applications

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The discussion revolves around the real-world applications of various particles discovered through particle accelerators, such as muons and gluons. Participants explore both theoretical and practical uses, addressing the distinction between fundamental research and applied technology.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that many particles are unstable and question the feasibility of practical applications, suggesting that current uses are limited.
  • One participant emphasizes that while particles like muons and gluons are essential for theoretical frameworks in physics, their direct applications are not comparable to conventional materials used in industry.
  • Another participant proposes two interpretations of "use": one as leveraging properties for specific tasks (e.g., muon detectors) and the other as using particles similarly to how electronics utilize electrons.
  • Positron emission tomography (PET) is cited as a medical imaging application of particle physics.
  • Nuclear magnetic resonance imaging is mentioned as another application related to quantum physics.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the immediate practical applications of fundamental particle physics, comparing it to the study of distant galaxies.
  • Additional applications mentioned include muon resonance spectroscopy, radioisotopes for medical treatment, and neutron scattering for material analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that many discoveries in particle physics are primarily for fundamental research rather than immediate applications. However, there are multiple competing views on what constitutes a "use" for these particles, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of their practical applications.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the instability of many particles and the dependence on theoretical frameworks that may not translate into practical applications. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the long-term implications of fundamental research.

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Over the years by using particle accelerators we've discovered all kinds of particles such as muons, gluons, etc. What uses do we have for all of these particles in the real world?
 
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Little, since few of them are actually stable enough to live longer than, say, one second. I don't see it happening that in 10 years from now you can buy a muon emitter in the hardware store, or gluon plasma to close gaps in the walls of your house.

But what physicists do (at least, most of them), is try to explain how the world around us works. Over the last centuries our knowledge has evolved to the point where we can explain everything on large scales (mechanics, thermodynamics, electrodynamics, ...) and we are trying to discover what matter is made up of on tinier and tinier scales. This started with molecules, atoms, protons, electrons, neutrons and is currently at the level of quarks and strings. All these explanations are in the form of a theory, with which we try to do predictions and verify those experimentally. The theories we've been using so far all require those extra particles (muons, gluons, neutrinos, every particle has an anti-particle, and so on) in order to be consistent and describe experiments already done. In fact in modern physics such particles are often predicted theoretically (sometimes several decennia) before they are actually observed.
So we cannot "use" those particles in the same way we can, for example, "use" certain compound materials, for industrial purposes. But their existence shows that at least part of the theory we are setting up to explain everything we see around us must be correct. And indeed it turns out that these particles are really necessary (for example, in certain interactions that we are sure occur, they are created and annihilated in intermediate steps and the traces of those "virtual" particles are actually visible in the end result of the interaction).

So it depends on what you would call: "use". For example, many of our current technology depends on electrical conductance. Would you call this a "use" for electrons?
 
I'm thinking "use" in two ways:

1.) taking advantage of some kind of property to do certain tasks (I think like a muon detector to scan for nuclear weapons inside of cargo containers, but I haven't been able to fine other examples)

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2.) to be able to use them in the same way our electronics devices use electrons.
 
Are there any other uses?

Btw, has quantum physics been useful in making other kinds of scanners?
 
Nuclear magnetic resonance imaging, is one example
 
aquitaine said:
Over the years by using particle accelerators we've discovered all kinds of particles such as muons, gluons, etc. What uses do we have for all of these particles in the real world?

As others pointed out, most particle physics is fundamental research, which is not application-driven. You can also ask what uses do we have for all those galaxies we've been studying for decades now with big telescopes.
As of now, the product of that is more on the fundamental knowledge kind than it is of the practical kind. It is impossible to say what will result from that in the very long term - a few centuries ahead.
 
* Muon resonance spectroscopy
* Radioisotopes for medical treatment and medical diagnostics
* Neutron scattering to probe magnetic/spin structure of materials
 

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