Using a minimized nuclear reactor for further space travel

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the theoretical concept of utilizing a minimized nuclear reactor as a self-sufficient energy source for spacecraft, exploring the feasibility of powering the reactor with its own output while also supplying energy for the spacecraft's operations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a design for a minimized nuclear reactor that could theoretically provide a self-sufficient energy source for spacecraft, suggesting a cycle where the reactor powers itself and the spacecraft.
  • Another participant references the concept of energy usage in particle colliders, implying that energy cannot be created from such systems.
  • A later reply challenges the initial proposal by stating that discussions of Over-Unity mechanisms and perpetual motion are not permitted, indicating a skepticism towards the feasibility of the proposed reactor design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the feasibility of the proposed self-sufficient reactor concept, with some arguing against the possibility of such systems while others explore the idea further. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on the limitations of energy generation versus energy consumption, with references to established scientific principles that may restrict the proposed ideas.

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Is it possible to create a self sufficient particle collider that can produce enough energy to power a spacecraft as well as fit on one while still keeping the rockets weight light enough to allow lift off?
I have been thinking and I thought of a design that may, theoretically result in spacecraft being able to have a self sufficient energy source on board. Here’s my theory, if you have a minimized nuclear reactor (if building something like this is even possible given that the nuclear reaction must be stimulated precisely and cannot effect any of the reactors functions) and you put this reactor on a spacecraft and use the energy collected from the reactor to power the reactor again (this is the cycle that makes it self sufficient) and use at least some of said power for powering the spacecraft . Would something like this be at all possible? Please let me know.
 
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hutchphd said:
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Thanks for this reference!
 
Particle colliders use energy, not make it.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Particle colliders use energy, not make it.
AW ... spoilsport. There you go again, bringing reality into a nice fantasy about magic.
 
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Interested user said:
you put this reactor on a spacecraft and use the energy collected from the reactor to power the reactor again (this is the cycle that makes it self sufficient)
We don't allow discussions of Over-Unity mechanisms and Perpetual Motion Machines, so this discussion is closed for now. From the PF Rules (see INFO at the top of the page):

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Pseudoscience, such as (but not limited to):
Perpetual motion and "free energy" discussions (see our Insights Article here)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion
http://www.skepdic.com/freeenergy.html
http://www.skepdic.com/perpetual.html
 

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