Using a stone to hunt down an animal with Centripetal Forces

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The problem involves a bushman using a vine with a rock to hunt a kangaroo, focusing on the dynamics of centripetal forces and projectile motion. The scenario describes the setup where the vine breaks at a specific angle, raising questions about the rock's trajectory and the minimum distance required to avoid hitting the kangaroo.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between centripetal forces and projectile motion, questioning how the acceleration changes when the vine breaks. There is also exploration of the correct orientation of the angle and the implications for the rock's motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the angle and the initial height of the rock when the vine breaks. There is ongoing exploration of the forces acting on the rock and how to accurately represent its motion in diagrams.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the plane in which the rock is spinning and the implications of the vine's length and breaking point on the rock's trajectory. There is mention of a diagram that was initially incorrect, which has since been revised to reflect the correct angle of descent.

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Homework Statement


A bushman wants to hunt down a kangaroo so he uses a vine which is 2.0m long with a rock tied to the end of it. The bushman holds the other hand above his head which is 2.0m above the ground. The kangaroo observes that when the angle with the vine and vertical reaches 60°, the vine breaks. So, what's the minimum distance for the rock not to hit the kangaroo?

θ = 60°
vine length = 2.0m

Y-component initial = 2.0m
Y-component final = 0.0m

Homework Equations


ac = V2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew a diagram of it and put in the data I know so far.
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I thought of this question for a bit and I feel like this question requires the concept of projectile motion (when the vine breaks and the rock flies to the kangaroo) and centripetal forces (because the rock is being spun tied to a vine).

The thing is, if I try to find acceleration here, it would be the perpendicular acceleration but when the vine breaks, wouldn't the acceleration that would be affecting the rock by then is a parallel acceleration because it does not go in a circle anymore?
 
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Additional info: the stone is being spun horizontally
 
Despite the detailed diagram, it's not clear what plane the rock is spinning in.
 
Alright so after a few days of thinking about this. I learned that my diagram is wrong because it would be impossible for the angle to angle up. So the 60° angles down making it look like it's spinning in the shape of a cone.

Since this question involves the concept of centripetal forces and projectile motion. This is was I found.

Y-initial=2-2cos60°
=1m
So when the vine breaks off, it starts off 1m above the ground.

Since the rock spins horizontally, it has no acceleration in the vertical component. Force of tension will have X and Y-components.
 
haruspex said:
Despite the detailed diagram, it's not clear what plane the rock is spinning in.

So this is my corrected diagram. The changes made:
60° angles down, rather than up
Initial position of Y-component when it breaks changes to 1m
 

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haruspex said:
Despite the detailed diagram, it's not clear what plane the rock is spinning in.

And this is the fbd of the rock :)
 

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