Using gravity to explain gravity

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The discussion centers on the conventional explanation of gravity using the rubber sheet analogy, which illustrates how mass deforms space-time, creating a curvature that influences the motion of objects. Participants express concerns that this analogy may inadvertently rely on an intuitive understanding of gravity rather than providing a true explanation. It is clarified that gravity arises from bodies following the straightest possible paths, known as geodesics, through curved space-time, without needing to invoke gravity itself as an explanatory force. The conversation also touches on the nature of gravitational fields and the limitations of analogies in fully capturing the complexities of gravity and space-time. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the distinction between description and explanation in the context of gravitational phenomena.
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pmb wrote:
That is not an explanation. That is a description.
By my understanding this is true for most of the threats I have read here. And it is of no surprise. Einstein himself has only given descriptions and no explanations regarding relativity.

Einstein's space-time is a typical example of a so called "geometrized theory". It is an elegant mathematical presentation but hides the view to the physics behind.

Roman Sexl has once given the direction for a physical explanation of gravity: We know very precisely that the speed of light is reduced in a gravitational potential. If this is applied to a photon which passes the sun (e.g. the sun eclipse observation of 1922 which made Einstein famous), then the photon is subject to a classical refraction in the gravitational field. If this is computed, the result is exactly the one which was observed. There is absolutely no need to use space-time curvature to explain this.

If this refraction process is applied to the internal oscillations within an elementary particle, the particle's acceleration towards the source of gravity is also exactly what we observe. With conventional space-time. It also covers the relativistic aspects of it (like the perihelion shift of the planets.)

For details refer to http://www.ag-physics.org/gravity
 
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