Using gravity to explain gravity

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The discussion centers on the analogy of a rubber sheet used to explain gravity within the framework of general relativity. Participants clarify that this analogy illustrates spatial curvature rather than providing a definitive explanation of gravity itself. The concept of gravity arises from bodies following the straightest possible paths, or geodesics, in curved spacetime. The conversation emphasizes that gravity is not merely a force but a result of the geometry of spacetime, challenging the conventional understanding of gravitational attraction.

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pmb wrote:
That is not an explanation. That is a description.
By my understanding this is true for most of the threats I have read here. And it is of no surprise. Einstein himself has only given descriptions and no explanations regarding relativity.

Einstein's space-time is a typical example of a so called "geometrized theory". It is an elegant mathematical presentation but hides the view to the physics behind.

Roman Sexl has once given the direction for a physical explanation of gravity: We know very precisely that the speed of light is reduced in a gravitational potential. If this is applied to a photon which passes the sun (e.g. the sun eclipse observation of 1922 which made Einstein famous), then the photon is subject to a classical refraction in the gravitational field. If this is computed, the result is exactly the one which was observed. There is absolutely no need to use space-time curvature to explain this.

If this refraction process is applied to the internal oscillations within an elementary particle, the particle's acceleration towards the source of gravity is also exactly what we observe. With conventional space-time. It also covers the relativistic aspects of it (like the perihelion shift of the planets.)

For details refer to http://www.ag-physics.org/gravity
 
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