Using Kirchhoff's Rules - Calculating Currents

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The discussion revolves around applying Kirchhoff's rules to analyze a circuit involving multiple resistors and batteries. Participants are focused on determining the currents provided by the batteries and the voltage drop across a specific resistor.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to apply Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) to set up equations based on their circuit diagrams. They are questioning the implications of current direction on voltage changes across resistors and discussing how to account for multiple currents in their equations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the importance of considering the direction of current when calculating potential changes. There is an ongoing exploration of the equations derived from KVL, with participants verifying each other's reasoning and calculations.

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Participants are working with two unknown currents and are navigating the complexities of applying Kirchhoff's rules correctly. There is a focus on ensuring the correct signs in their equations based on current direction and resistor orientation.

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Homework Statement



What currents are provided by the batteries? What is the voltage drop across the 1.2 Ω
resistor?

Homework Equations


V = IR
Junction Rule = sum of current at a junction = 0
Loop Rule = sum of changes in potential around any closed path of a circuit must be 0

The Attempt at a Solution



I hope what I've drawn is clear enough. I 1 only goes around the small rectangle whereas I 2 encompasses the entire rectangle.

The current provided by the 12 V battery using the loop rule:

12 V + (3.9 Ω)(I1)+(1.2 Ω)(I1) + (9.8 Ω)(I1) = 0

Does that make sense? I'm unsure when it comes to these rules.
 

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When you "walk" around a loop doing a KVL sum, be sure to pay attention to the polarities of the potential changes. If you pass through a resistance in the same direction as the current, does the potential rise or drop? Also, it sounds as though you've specified that I2 also passes through the 3.9 and 9.8 Ohm resistors, so it must also contribute to the total potential change in those resistors.

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Okay I think I understand better. If the resistance is in the same direction as the current, that would be considered a voltage drop.

So really, I have two unknowns.

12 V - (3.9 Ω)(I1) - (1.2 Ω)(I1) - (9.8 Ω)(I1) - (3.9 Ω)(I2) - (9.8 Ω)(I2)= 0

So then maybe applying this same loop rule to I2 I would have:

(3.9 Ω)(I2) - (3.9 Ω)(I1) - (6.7 Ω)(I2) - 9V - (9.8 Ω)(I2) - (9.8 Ω)(I1) + 12 V = 0
 
PeachBanana said:
Okay I think I understand better. If the resistance is in the same direction as the current, that would be considered a voltage drop.

So really, I have two unknowns.

12 V - (3.9 Ω)(I1) - (1.2 Ω)(I1) - (9.8 Ω)(I1) - (3.9 Ω)(I2) - (9.8 Ω)(I2)= 0

So then maybe applying this same loop rule to I2 I would have:

(3.9 Ω)(I2) - (3.9 Ω)(I1) - (6.7 Ω)(I2) - 9V - (9.8 Ω)(I2) - (9.8 Ω)(I1) + 12 V = 0

Yup. Just verify the sign of the first term in the loop 2 equation. Otherwise, nicely done.
 

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