Using Noether's Theorem to get conserved quantities

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The discussion centers on deriving the Lagrangian for a system of N point particles influenced by gravity, expressed as L = (1/2)∑m_i(ṙ_i²) - ∑V(|r_i - r_j|). Participants identify two conserved quantities from Noether's theorem: linear momentum due to translational invariance and angular momentum. The challenge lies in determining the additional four conserved quantities, with questions raised about the explicit representation of potential energy and the vector nature of momentum. Clarifications are sought regarding the components of momentum and the implications of conservation laws on the system's dynamics. The conversation emphasizes the application of Noether's theorem to extract conserved quantities beyond energy.
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Homework Statement


N point particles of mass mα, α = 1,...,N move in their mutual gravitational field. Write down the Lagrangian for this system. Use Noether’s theorem to derive six constants of motion for the system, none of which is the energy

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Noethers Theorem: If a change (q_i \implies q_i+\delta q_i) creates no change in the Lagrangian the conserved quantity is
\sum \dot{p_i}\delta q_i

The Attempt at a Solution



So my lagrangian is:
<br /> L=\frac{1}{2}\sum m_i \dot{r}^2_i-\sum_{i\neq j}V(|r_i-r_j|)<br />

With this I can get 2 conserved quantities - momentum (from translational invariance) and angular momentum. How do I get the other 4?
 
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Toby_phys said:
With this I can get 2 conserved quantities - momentum (from translational invariance) and angular momentum. How do I get the other 4?
How many components of each?
 
Toby_phys said:
So my lagrangian is:
<br /> L=\frac{1}{2}\sum m_i \dot{r}^2_i-\sum_{i\neq j}V(|r_i-r_j|)<br />
Do any of the symbols here represent vector quantities? Are you meant to write the potential energy explicitly for gravitational interaction?

With this I can get 2 conserved quantities - momentum (from translational invariance) and angular momentum. How do I get the other 4?
By "momentum", are you referring to the total linear momentum of the system? Momentum is a vector quantity. If it is conserved, what can you say about each of its Cartesian components? {Edit: I see Orodruin already addressed this point.}
 

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