Using Power Series to Evaluate ln and sin at a Given Point

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The discussion revolves around using power series to evaluate the expression ln(x + √(1 + x²)) - sin(x) at the point x = 0.001. Participants are exploring the application of relevant power series for logarithmic and trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the expansion of the logarithmic expression and the use of power series for √(1 + x²). There is uncertainty about the validity of replacing occurrences of "1" in the series with a variable. Questions arise regarding the simplification of the resulting expressions and the correct application of the binomial series.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the appropriate power series to use and suggested focusing on the first few terms for evaluation. There is an ongoing exploration of how to construct the power series for the logarithmic function based on the expansion of √(1 + x²).

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of power series and their convergence, as well as the implications of variable substitution in series expansions. There is a recognition of the need for clarity in the definitions and roles of terms within the series.

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Homework Statement


"Use power series to evaluate the function at the given point"
## ln (x+ \sqrt{1+{x^2}}) - sin x ##

at ## x = 0.001 ##

Homework Equations


Relevant power series:
A: ## ln (1+x) = \Big( \sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{({(-1)^{n+1}}{x^n})}{n} \Big) ##

B: ## {(1+x)^p} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty }\binom{p}{n}{x^n} ##

C: ## sin x = \Big ( \sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{({(-1)^{n}{x}^{2n+1}})}{(2n+1)!} \Big) ##

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Starting out with the logarithmic expression, there are two power series.

If ## \sqrt{1+{x^2}} = y ##

then ## ln (x+y) = \Big( \sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{({(-x)^{n+1}}{y^n})}{n} \Big) ##

and ## y = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty }\binom{(\frac{1}{2})}{n}{({(x^2)^n)}} ##

I hope I am correct this far? Of course, I can now expand the series and multiply term by term, but this is quite tedious - especially since (using wolfram alpha), the first terms are in the power of 5 and 7. I also tried making a general expression, but then I end up with something like..
## ln (x+y) = \Big( \sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{({(-x)^{n+1}})}{n} \Big) * (\sum_{n=0}^{\infty }\binom{(\frac{1}{2})}{n}{({(x^2)^n)}}) ##

.. and I don't know how to simplify this.

There must be some obvious mistake, or a simpler way to do this?
 
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If ## \sqrt{1+{x^2}} = y ##

then ## ln (x+y) = \Big( \sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{({(-x)^{n+1}}{y^n})}{n} \Big) ##
That does not look right and I don't see where this comes from. You cannot simply replace occurences of 1 by a variable. In particular, the two occurences of "1" in the expansion given above have a completely different meaning.

and ## y = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty }\binom{(\frac{1}{2})}{n}{({(x^2)^n)}} ##
What is ##\binom{(\frac{1}{2})}{n}##?
There is a power series for ##\sqrt{1+x}## that you can use.

With the correct power series, it is sufficient to consider the first few terms - I guess you just need the first non-vanishing order of x.
 
"In particular, the two occurrences of "1" in the expansion given above have a completely different meaning."
Yes, I was unsure of this.

And maybe I was unclear - I used the binomial series to expand ## \sqrt{1+{x^2}} ##
## \sqrt{1+{x^2}} = \sum_{0}^{\infty }\binom{\frac{1}{2}}{n}{(x^2)^n} = 1 + \frac{x^2}{2} - \frac{x^4}{8} + \frac{x^6}{16} ... ## where ## \binom{\frac{1}{2}}{n} ## is the binomial expression 0.5 choose n.
I think this is correct?

I don't fully understand, however - how do I make a power series of:
## ln (1 + x + \frac{x^2}{2} - \frac{x^4}{8} + \frac{x^6}{16}...) ## ... ?
 
Okay, I found the appropriate generalization of the standard binomial coefficients needed for that.

##\ln(1+x+\frac{x^2}{2}+...) = \ln(1+c)= ...## with c coming from the sum. You won't need many terms to find one that does not cancel.
 
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Of course! Thanks!
 
ngc2024 said:
"In particular, the two occurrences of "1" in the expansion given above have a completely different meaning."
Yes, I was unsure of this.

And maybe I was unclear - I used the binomial series to expand ## \sqrt{1+{x^2}} ##
## \sqrt{1+{x^2}} = \sum_{0}^{\infty }\binom{\frac{1}{2}}{n}{(x^2)^n} = 1 + \frac{x^2}{2} - \frac{x^4}{8} + \frac{x^6}{16} ... ## where ## \binom{\frac{1}{2}}{n} ## is the binomial expression 0.5 choose n.
I think this is correct?

I don't fully understand, however - how do I make a power series of:
## ln (1 + x + \frac{x^2}{2} - \frac{x^4}{8} + \frac{x^6}{16}...) ## ... ?

Write ##1 + x + \frac{x^2}{2} - \frac{x^4}{8} + \frac{x^6}{16} + \cdots## as ##1+z##, and use the series for ##\ln(1+z)## in powers of ##z##.
 
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