Using the Lambert W-Function to Solve for a Unique Real Value of x

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Lambert W-Function to solve an equation derived from an engineering problem, specifically in the form of ax=b-cln(dx). Participants explore how to manipulate the equation to utilize the Lambert W-Function and seek clarification on its usefulness in obtaining a unique positive real value for x.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation ax=b-cln(dx) and expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with the Lambert W-Function after transforming it into a specific form.
  • Another participant explains the relationship between the Lambert W-Function and the equation, indicating how to express x in terms of the W-Function.
  • A different participant notes that the Lambert W-Function is defined as the inverse of W e^W and emphasizes that while it provides a recognizable form, it does not directly yield numerical solutions for x.
  • Participants discuss the necessity of numerical methods or mathematical tables to find specific values of x after applying the Lambert W-Function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the effectiveness of the Lambert W-Function in providing a straightforward solution, with some participants suggesting it merely reformulates the problem while others acknowledge its role in expressing x in a recognizable way.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for numerical solutions and the reliance on mathematical software or tables for evaluating the Lambert W-Function, indicating limitations in directly solving the equation analytically.

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Not really sure where this question belongs in this forum...

I was solving an engineering problem and I got to the form

ax=b-cln(dx)

where a, b, c and d are constant real values. I had a peek at the answer and they got a unique positive real valued answer for x but I have no idea how. Some searching I came across the Lambert W-Function and I got it into the form

\frac{1}{d}e^{\frac{b}{c}} = xe^{\frac{ax}{c}}

How do I proceed to apply the Lambert W-Function from here?

WolframAlpha found that

x = \frac{c}{a}W\left ( \frac{a}{cd}e^{\frac{b}{c}} \right )
 
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$$x=W(g) \Leftrightarrow x*e^x = g$$
Therefore,
$$\frac{ax}{c} = W\left ( \frac{a}{cd}e^{\frac{b}{c}} \right ) \Leftrightarrow \frac{ax}{c} \exp\left(\frac{ax}{c}\right) = \frac{a}{cd}e^{\frac{b}{c}}$$

Multiply both sides with c/a and you get the equation in your post. The other direction works the same, you just have to see that you need the shape (something)*e^(something) and work with the constants to get that.
 
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Well, LambertW is defined to be the inverse of W e^W. If there was a way to invert that function, there would be no need to define LambertW! The expression you got is the most thing you can do. Then you are supposed to say "Oh yeah, so x should be the LambertW of such and so". And for actually finding numbers for x, you should consult mathematical tables or math softwares .
 
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Thanks, that clears a lot up. So really the Lambert W in this case doesn't help all that much - just allows the function to be in a more recognisable form. You still need to go back to...

\frac{1}{d}e^{\frac{b}{c}} = xe^{\frac{ax}{c}}

and solve numerically for x.
 
Or look up function values of the Lambert W function, yes.
 

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