Using Y to Delta Transformation to Find Currents

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The discussion centers on the misconception of applying the current divider rule to a circuit that does not meet the necessary conditions for its use. While the 210-ohm resistor is in parallel with other resistors, the presence of the 50-ohm resistor complicates the configuration, preventing a straightforward application of the current divider formula. The correct approach involves finding the Norton equivalent for the circuit connected to the 210-ohm resistor to establish an accurate current division. The participants emphasize that the current divider rule is only valid for specific resistor arrangements, which are not present in this case. Understanding the circuit's configuration is crucial for correctly analyzing current flow and resistance.
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Homework Statement
Use a Y-to-Δ transformation to find the unknown quantities for the circuit.
Find:
1) io
2) i1
3) i2
4) power delivered by ideal voltage source
Relevant Equations
Shown below are the equations for delta to y transformations and vice verse. Also the current divider equation and Ohm's law.
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Can someone explain why I can't simply use a current divider once I've found the equivalent resistance and source current for the entire circuit? This would look like i0 = 0.044*(113.53/210). Req = 113.53.

If it helps, the correct answers appear to be: i0 = 8.28 mA, i1 = 23.6 mA, i2 = 35.8 mA, P = 0.220 W.
 
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The logic is: if you have a current divider circuit, then I = I_total (R/Req).

You don't have a current divider, so the formula doesn't apply.

You might try finding the Norton equivalent of the circuit connected to the 210-ohm resistor. You would then have a current divider. You'll find I_nort is not equal to the source current you calculated, and Rth is nowhere near Req.
 
vela said:
The logic is: if you have a current divider circuit, then I = I_total (R/Req).

You don't have a current divider, so the formula doesn't apply.

You might try finding the Norton equivalent of the circuit connected to the 210-ohm resistor. You would then have a current divider. You'll find I_nort is not equal to the source current you calculated, and Rth is nowhere near Req.
Why don't I have a current divider for 210 ohm resistor? It is, after all, in parallel. And parallel circuits divide current up?
 
In parallel with what?
 
vela said:
In parallel with what?
40 and 20
 
It doesn't really make sense to say the 210-ohm resistor is in parallel with the 40-ohm and 20-ohm combination as those two resistors can't be combined into one element because of the 50-ohm resistor connected to the node in between them.

Anyway, the current divider rule applies to a specific configuration of resistors, and you simply don't have that here.
 
vela said:
It doesn't really make sense to say the 210-ohm resistor is in parallel with the 40-ohm and 20-ohm combination as those two resistors can't be combined into one element because of the 50-ohm resistor connected to the node in between them.

Anyway, the current divider rule applies to a specific configuration of resistors, and you simply don't have that here.
Ok. I thought current divider works for parallel configurations because parallel configurations divide up current. Would a current divider then work for something more along these lines?
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