Y-delta/delta-Y transformation problem

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The problem involves finding the current through a resistor in a circuit using Y-delta or delta-Y transformations. The context is within electrical engineering, specifically focusing on circuit analysis and resistor networks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to convert a delta network of resistors into a Y-network and calculates the total resistance. Some participants question the correctness of this transformation and the implications of symmetry in the circuit. Others suggest alternative approaches to simplify the analysis.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's calculations and suggesting different methods for approaching the problem. There is recognition of the correct equivalent resistance, but uncertainty remains regarding the transformation process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the symmetry of the delta-Y network and its impact on the circuit, as well as the potential confusion arising from the transformation steps taken by the original poster.

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Homework Statement



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The question asks to find the current I going into the 2k resistor path using Y-delta or delta-Y transformations.

Homework Equations



Resistance in parallel

1 / R = 1 / R1 + 1 / R2 ..

Converting Delta to Y,

R1 = RaRb / (Ra + Rb + Rc)

Current divider formula

Ix = (Rt / Rx) * Is

The Attempt at a Solution



I converted the delta network of 3 k Ohm resistors into a Y-network of 1k Ohms each using the above equation. (3*3) / (3 + 3 + 3) = 1. Then I got the total resistance of the network as 1.5 k Ohm. Then I used the current divider formula and found I as 2.14 mA.

The only problem is I'm not sure if I found the total resistance of the network correctly. It's confusing. Can someone tell me if I did it right?
 
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Right, it is ##1.5\,k\Omega##. It is easy to check - delta-Y network is symmetrical so there is no current through ##6\,k\Omega## resistor and you can get rid of it.
 
It looks like you managed to find the correct equivalent resistance of the subnetwork, but I'm not sure how you went about it given that you started by transforming the outer Δ to a Y. The reason I say this is because the "new" Y won't have the same central connection as the existing one, nor will it be at the same potential by symmetry (since the existing one has legs 3-6-3, while the new one has legs 1-1-1 all in kΩ). Just looks like a lot of work from that point!

If you'd done the opposite and transformed the existing Y to a Δ, each new resistor would parallel one in the existing Δ, leaving a single Δ with a "wing" that can collapse to a single resistance and it's easy going from there.
 
szynkasz said:
Right, it is ##1.5\,k\Omega##. It is easy to check - delta-Y network is symmetrical so there is no current through ##6\,k\Omega## resistor and you can get rid of it.

Ah, so it is! Well spotted!
 

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