Validity of solution to differential equation

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The discussion revolves around the validity of a solution to a differential equation given by x(x-1)y'' + (3x-1)y' + y = 0. The original poster presents their solution, which involves logarithmic terms and considers the intervals of validity for the solution.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to validate their solution by analyzing the convergence of the power series and the implications of logarithmic terms. Some participants question the intervals of validity and suggest checking the solution in different regions, particularly for negative values of x.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the solution's validity across various intervals. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to verify the solution in negative regions and the implications of singular points. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final validity of the solution.

Contextual Notes

No specific conditions were provided for the problem, which may affect the interpretation of the solution's validity across different intervals.

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Homework Statement


I solved the differential eqution

[tex]x(x-1)y'' + (3x-1)y' + y = 0[/tex]

and I am to discuss the validity of this solution

Homework Equations


Solution

[tex]y(x) = \frac{c_2\ln|x|}{1-x} + \frac{c_1}{1-x}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



The method i used for solving the equation was to first find one solution
with a powerseries method. This produced the 'geometric series' solution
which only converges |x|<1. The second solution was found by variation of the constant.
And here I got ln|x| in the picture which is only valid for x diffrent from zero.

Would I then be right to conclude that this solution is only valid on the interval 0<x<1 and 0>x>-1?
 
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Since 0 and 1 are the regular singular points of the differential equation, I would be inclined to think the solution you found only works in [itex](0,1)[/itex]. I would quickly go over the working to make sure there wasn't a detail you glossed over that incorrectly allowed the negative range, and if you can't find any errors, for [itex]-1 < x < 0[/itex] check by differentiating that [tex]y(x) = \frac{ c_2 \log(-x) + c_1 }{1-x}[/tex] does indeed satisfy the equation.
 
Hmm I did check the solution and it did not work for [tex]\ln |x|[/tex]. I can't really find anything that would kill the solutions in the negative region, but then again I'm not really sure what that would be. What kind of operation would eliminate that region?

EDIT: I rechecked the solution, but for [tex]\ln(-x)[/tex] and that did work out.
 
By the way.. Does this imply that the two regions infact have diffrent solutions in terms of the constants c1 and c2?
 
What conditions are you given? You should be able to find a solution that is valid for x< 0, another solution that is valid for 0< x< 1, and a third that is valid for x> 1.
 
No conditions were given and I did check that my solution worked out for ln(-x) as well as ln(x). Doesn't the solutions have to be divided into yet another region according to the radius of convergence of the powerseries for 1/(1-x)

The problem stated that _one_ solution were to be found by frobenius method which should come out to be 1/(1-x), and that the other should be found by variation of the constant.

I then had to discuss the validity of _this_ solution, so I guess I don't have to find solutions in regions where this is not a valid solution.
 

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